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Deutsche Telekom Announcement Fuels Renewed Talk of Possible LTE-Advanced Support for iPhone 5S

LTE Advanced; maybe for 5S

I wouldn't count it out. The only reason Apple held off from LTE in beginning was because of the compromises to battery life and size.

The LTE chips out are much smaller, provide better battery life than 3G now.. so if the tech is there with no compromises to size/battery life.. They'd do it..

Consider they were the first on the Wifi AC bandwagon.. why? no compromises to battery/size.. so why not?
 
Data plans

Given that the plans are for a fixed amount of data, faster speeds can only make it easier for consumers to easily go over their data limits and pay exorbitant prices. We need to get back to the unlimited plans....
 
158273 said:
Hope is a pretty weak vibration though. If you reach for belief or knowing, then that's another thing.
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Well, I broke my crystal ball so that's all I've got...:rolleyes:

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solamar said:
I wouldn't count it out. The only reason Apple held off from LTE in beginning was because of the compromises to battery life and size.

The LTE chips out are much smaller, provide better battery life than 3G now.. so if the tech is there with no compromises to size/battery life.. They'd do it..

Consider they were the first on the Wifi AC bandwagon.. why? no compromises to battery/size.. so why not?
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Interesting argument. You make a lot of sense.
 
I can see it now. Using up your data allowance for the month in the first week. Higher speeds seem somewhat worthless unless your data plan is unlimited (or at least much bigger then the plans that are currently out there).
 
- Not once did Deutsche Telekom mention the iPhone.

- A whole bunch of phones with Qualcomm's MDM9x25 baseband chipset is about to overflow the market. LG's G2 already announced, Note 3 announced yesterday.

- iPhone 5S (stands for speed) will also have that same Qualcomm's chipset and will support speeds of up to 150Mbps.

- and most importantly, LTE-A isn't a magic button that makes your phone go "faster".
Networks have to support it, and there are total of zero US networks that support it. Also, in order to achieve 150Mbps, you either need to:

a) aggregate two 10Mhz channels on a LTE-A deployed network (none in the USA), or
b) have enough spectrum to deploy 2x20Mhz LTE network, which only Verizon can do this year, in some markets.

There is so much wrong with the sensationalism in this article...
 
Battlefield Fan said:
What's wrong with LTE??? It hasn't even been pushed. Some area's get 50Mbps but many area's are only 10-15 Mbps on AT&T...
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I'm still waiting on decent 2G/3G coverage in many areas from carriers.

I know AT&T said they want to shut down 2G/EDGE by 2017, but that's all you have if you drive for 45 minutes in any direction outside of a city.
 
Who 'needs' these speeds honestly? How about carriers worry about making their coverage and signal more reliable. I have been on 3G and its been fine on my 4S. They are wasting money increasing speeds while the service is still so clogged in major cities. Fix that problem first.
 
cmichaelb said:
I'm not sure what he's referring to.

Maybe he means that LTE hasn't reached the speeds that were proposed when the tech was being developed?

But that effects all phones, not just the iPhone 5.
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The other phones didn't promise 100Mbps speeds.

Apple has yet to give us what they promised.
 
HangmanSwingset said:
So glad to be on T-Mobile right now. And with all the overtime I've been working, it's likely I'll be able to get a 5S within the first week of its release :D
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T-Mogelkom, A&TT or WhereIsOn does not matter, as this is an announcement for Telekom's "D1" netword, read Germany only.
(well and maybe that Korean carrier).
 
lte iphone 5 <--> xperia zl <--> xperia z1

in the cities high speed lte (100) is very speedy with the iPhone 5 and the xperia zl, lte does not work on the country side using the iPhone 5 but -->Sony xperia zl is very speedy there

the new Sony xperia z1 will support all speed options including the 150 Mbit/s lte, the xperia z1 will be available in Europe by September the 29th

lets hope the new iPhone is comparable, but probably it will be in many aspects inferior to the xperia z1 ( 5" ? )
 
RVijay007 said:
Given that the plans are for a fixed amount of data, faster speeds can only make it easier for consumers to easily go over their data limits and pay exorbitant prices. We need to get back to the unlimited plans....
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This guy gets it. I think it's stupid (or maybe just very naive) to get excited about much faster data burn rates in an environment in which hard caps exist... unless the added speed provides some special need for some users. All the bulk of us are celebrating here is how much faster we can re-up on monthly data tolls because we were able to get one of the tier limits faster than ever.

Progress is very good. But this progress is about pulling more money out of our pockets rather than actually giving most of us some noticeably tangible benefit. Complete (business) genius to make the whole country swallow the pill of hard tier limits so small that streaming one HD movie could burn all of tier 1 AND then have us frothing at speeding up how fast we can consume data to get those limits.

Another version of focusing on "next big things" with big dependencies on burning data to help cell phone service providers make even more money: you know, like iRadio, Facetime, Maps, iCloud, etc. Give us data-hungry apps on tier-capped feeds at faster-than-ever data (burn) rates and AT&T, Verizon, etc are very happy. :rolleyes:
 
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hoits2000 said:
Who 'needs' these speeds honestly? How about carriers worry about making their coverage and signal more reliable. I have been on 3G and its been fine on my 4S. They are wasting money increasing speeds while the service is still so clogged in major cities. Fix that problem first.
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We are talking about iPhone equipment, you are talking about carrier build outs. The carriers must plan for the future so they don't get caught unprepared again. So while they are building LTE they spend the incremental dollar to just do LTE-A from the start, and then when the phones get the correct receivers, they will get the capability. The phones and networks advance together, not one at a time playing catch up.

If the carriers went around patching holes all day, they wouldn't be building for the future. And then 1 year later, we'd be back in the exact same situation. It's a balance. Building a future with 95% reliability & coverage is smarter than improving the current 90% to 99%.
 
orangebluedevil said:
iPhone 5S looks like it will get MDM9x25 and WTR1605L, which does have LTE-A. Why all this talk that it won't get it? What am I missing?

Link: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25/2
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Brian Klug has since changed his speculation. He won't disclose why he thinks it has changed, which lends to him not just guessing IMO.

https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/status/369269947613990912

Starting to suspect 5S might actually include MDM9615M+WTR1605L as opposed to earlier optimistic speculation of 3rd gen modem (MDM9625M)
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Xenomorph said:
I'm still waiting on decent 2G/3G coverage in many areas from carriers.

I know AT&T said they want to shut down 2G/EDGE by 2017, but that's all you have if you drive for 45 minutes in any direction outside of a city.
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Not true. I've driven in rural areas of Kansas and had 4G. I was amazed. Some areas had LTE too! There are dead spots though that needs to be fixed. But I guess they don't care for the 2-3 people on the farm don't need to be checking Facebook.
 
does this mean the 5s will finally support other 4g bands as well?
because iphone 5's 4g is useless in most of europe.
 
Cougarcat said:
I can't get excited. LTE is "good enough" to the point where I don't feel like I'm ever waiting for something (though, I never tether.). I would probably just end up turning LTE-A off in favor of better battery life.
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There was a time people thought that a 56kbps model was as good as it got, cause there was no need for high speed or to stay connected to the internet.
 
Nicky G said:
LTE Advanced is the first TRUE 4G cellular technology. This is exciting! In the next few years our mobile data connections may be faster than our wired connections! Can't wait for AT&T to roll this out, as well as the other US carriers.
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aDRock1154 said:
Nope. Not for the 5S anyways...
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madsci954 said:
Doubt we won't see this until iPhone 6 at least.
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Remember when the iPhone 4 was supposed to be the "iPhone 4G" with "4G"? It took two more iterations to get LTE support. I'm thinking iPhone 6S or 7.
 
AustinIllini said:
Remember when the iPhone 4 was supposed to be the "iPhone 4G" with "4G"? It took two more iterations to get LTE support. I'm thinking iPhone 6S or 7.
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It took an integrated all-in-one modem. That's not the issue this time around, nor is power consumption. The only concerns are part cost, availability and need (do enough markets justify it or would it be better to hold it back for more support, then make a bigger marketing splash with it)? The cost is incidental when it comes to Apple stuff and I'm sure availability is no issue since 28nm volume is healthy now.
 
How many people need that kind of speed? You pretty much have to have an unlimited data plan so that you can watch shows all the time.
 
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As a Chicago resident, I can't say that this news excites me. Data coverage and speeds throughout the city are horrendous. Every time I travel or go home to Louisville, I am reminded what decent AT&T service feels like. I would LOVE to get a consistent 1-2mb/s in the city on a day-to-day basis.
 
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