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Developer Claims Three Major Carriers Throttle iPhone and iPad Data Speeds

k1121j said:
your testing your wifi connection
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No he's not. You're looking in the wrong place for what connection was used to test. He could be on Airplane Mode and still show you results of a previous test. If you look at the icon by the date of the test you'll see the test was indeed done on a cellular data connection.

Cheers
 
MacRumors said:
To thwart the apparent throttling, iTweakiOS offers a number of carrier hacks that are designed to increase data speeds.
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Isn't this like Norton claiming they've found a new virus on the Mac, and uh, oh, we just so happen to have a product to fix that...

I call shenanigans. I've got a Verizon iPad with 4G and an iPhone 5 on AT&T. I routinely test speeds of 20 Mbps + on both devices.
 
Come to the UK

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street.cory said:
No he's not. You're looking in the wrong place for what connection was used to test. He could be on Airplane Mode and still show you results of a previous test. If you look at the icon by the date of the test you'll see the test was indeed done on a cellular data connection.

Cheers
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LOL Thank you for explaining that. I was sitting here dumbfounded by the repeated claims of testing on wifi.
 
k1121j said:
your testing your wifi connection
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Nope. I have 3Mbps DSL, so I'm not. Also I was in a car on the interstate when I took that. The icon next to the test date (of May 25) clearly shows a cellular connection. But I explained that in my initial post, so I don't expect you to understand me this time either.
 
makes sense on tmobile. my reception has been crap since restoring to a stock 6.x firmware after getting my phone officially unlocked.
 
When I got my iPhone 5 and AT&T upgraded the network in Denver to LTE, I tested at 16-20Mbps. Now that number is 8-10. Half.
 
Patriot24 said:
If true, the likely answer will be that making a little less money, but having an operating network is more desirable than the poor customer experience of networks that are slow due to overload.

Besides, the premiums that the carriers charge for data isn't trivial. They are making money hand over fist as it is.
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So they are making plenty of money and don't want more? Really? Sounds like a rationalization to me. You want this to be true. Why? :)
 
Well the obvious legal problem is quite simple to see: If Apple and Carrier X advertise that the iPhone 5 can get a certain speed on their network but the phone is designed either with hardware or software to intentionally prevent it from reaching the advertised potential then a class action lawsuit is on the way.
 
Copied from myself in another thread:
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At what point do we not call it "throttled" and instead call it "the cellular companies have the right to manage their networks?"

If everyone's speed is being held to a similar standard than that's the carrier deciding what their network can handle with the number of users they have. It's their job to determine things like that.

That's not throttling, which is defined as specifically lowering a user's speeds under what they normally get.

It's impossible for everyone to be throttled 24/7. How can the average be lower than average? Then it simply IS the average.
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I.E. Instead of repurposing profits to improve cellular infrastructures, N. American mobile providers are limiting service to paying customers while executives make record profits.

Yeah, seems about right.
 
Patriot24 said:
If true, the likely answer will be that making a little less money, but having an operating network is more desirable than the poor customer experience of networks that are slow due to overload.

Besides, the premiums that the carriers charge for data isn't trivial. They are making money hand over fist as it is.
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But why does going faster result in overload? Just because you go faster doesn't mean you'll use more data. Seems to me that it would be better to get the data to people faster and get them off the network for the next guy.

Think of an interstate highway. Why does it back up? it's not the fast cars, it's the ones that go slow that cause everyone to have to go slow.
 
I use to get anywhere from 3.5-10Mbps now since installing the update I get 15-23+Mbps. Make sure you try different near by servers even if they are 50 miles away. The one that's supposedly 5 miles away is worst then the one that's 30 miles away.
 
whitedragon101 said:
Bwaa ha ha not on Three network in the UK

iphone 5 gets 21Mbps unlimited data allowance

and thats not even 4G yet
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Yes, Three does that to attract customers. At some point, so many people will be enjoying their "unlimted data allowance" that your data rates drop to 10kbps. Then even the most naive user will realize that Three cheated them with a promise that they could never actually keep.
 
k1121j said:
higher data speeds do not directly covert to more data used. Higher speeds do allow for use of more data in a shorter time meaning Better video chat resolution faster download/uploads etc.

The issue for the phone co's is throughput there towers only allow for so much at any given time so they figure if they limit the device that used the most data at any given time this will elevate the issues in area where the "iPhones" are "hogging" all the throughput.

I dont agree with there half thought of way of doing this its unfair to the consumer they should build more towers or provide more throughput and or not over sell their services
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This sounds like you badly want this to be true and are thinking up reasons why it would be true. How do you explain the screen shots of people getting higher speeds? Start thinking up a reason for that. :)
 
InfoTime said:
Isn't this like Norton claiming they've found a new virus on the Mac, and uh, oh, we just so happen to have a product to fix that...

I call shenanigans. I've got a Verizon iPad with 4G and an iPhone 5 on AT&T. I routinely test speeds of 20 Mbps + on both devices.
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I've actually installed the hack and he isn't lying.

Before the Springs got LTE (just last week). I tested it in the exact same spot multiple times for an average before upgrading to the hack and directly after (1 min) and the difference was 10 fold on HSPA+. Astounded honestly.

Although, what I think is going on is regional throttling like at&t is known to do for usage caps on unlimited plans. Just because one area isn't being throttled doesn't mean another isn't.

However, battery life seems to go to pot when in a bad reception area. I mean way worse than normal. I upgraded my wife's iP5 as well and I'm going to have to restore it since she can barely make it though the work day now when she'd normally be at ~50%. I'm in a better area and see a 10% drop over normal.
 
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uh...

Don't we expect them to control the flow of data like that? They are providing and maintaining the network, this is a normal practice in many industries. It sounds to me like people are saying it is a bad or shady thing, but it isn't, it's a way to ensure availability of services... if you don't like the product, don't buy it.
 
MacDav said:
So they are making plenty of money and don't want more? Really? Sounds like a rationalization to me. You want this to be true. Why? :)
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That is not what I said. I said that they want to have a functioning network. Clearly they believe that throttling users leads to a healthier network.

In all likelihood, they probably prefer not to repeat the bad PR that regarding their slow, inconsistent network when the iPhone 4 was released.


wwjdjoe said:
But why does going faster result in overload? Just because you go faster doesn't mean you'll use more data. Seems to me that it would be better to get the data to people faster and get them off the network for the next guy.

Think of an interstate highway. Why does it back up? it's not the fast cars, it's the ones that go slow that cause everyone to have to go slow.
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They probably have data that suggests otherwise.
 
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