Developers Now Receiving Apple TV Units for App Testing Purposes

[jimmirehman]

Are you getting a new iPhone? If so 4K recording will be in your pocket and always with you as soon as you pick up that phone... not 5 years from now. Stores already seem to have more 4K sets for sale than 1080p sets (go look) and prices are not the "thousands more" some of us keep slinging around.

My prediction is Apple will finally embrace 4K in an TV5 about 0-6 months after the new iPhone's camera goes into iPads (so that's probably 12-18 months from now... not 5 years). That's what happened with 1080p: iPhone 1080p recording first, then iPad, then new 1080p TV.

And TVs are usually about 10-year products. People replacing TVs "once or twice" over just 5 years must have a lot of violence at their homes (damaging the sets), live in a high-crime area (they get stolen) or have money to burn such that they need every latest & greatest update each model year (you know, like Apple people are with Apple products).

Content providers will deliver 4K as soon as this this holiday season on new 4K Blu Ray players: http://www.cnet.com/news/4k-blu-ray-discs-arriving-in-2015-to-fight-streaming-media/ Some sources like Netflix, Amazon and YouTube already deliver some 4K via streaming. And the army of Apple iPhone buyers are about to shoot a ton of YouTube videos in 4K with their new iPhones. Surprising me, there's even real testing to make it available over the air (something I didn't expect for many more years): http://4k.com/news/lg-zenith-others-testing-simplified-over-the-air-4k-tv-broadcasting-8153/

My (adjustment to your) prediction: in 5 years, 8K will already be obviously rising and 4K will be where 1080p is now. And 1080p sets for sale at stores will probably have as abundant a selection as the 720p sets in stores now.

TVs are no longer 10 year products, they are 1-2 year products. All tech is becoming disposable. Datacaps will kill 4k streaming. Maybe it will take iOS devices sporting 4k cameras to push 4k into the fast lane, but 4k has already been done on the Android side and no one cared. GoPro is 4k , no one cared. 4k also serves no purpose on a TV smaller than 55". It has a few years before it either becomes the norm or is replaced by 8k, then 12k, then 16k... the tech moves faster than the consumer based versions of the products.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Believe what you wish. I doubt you can find many who are going to agree that TVs are 1-2 year disposable products. I know of no such people and I'm pretty passionate about this particular topic. In fact, I think that feeds into the "1080p is good enough" sentiment even within this thread- a desire to NOT replace a perfectly good TV set with a new 4K one until the 1080p set dies (which, of course, nobody would have to replace any set anyway, as better hardware would easily downscale to play on whatever 1080p or 720p set anyone owns & loves now).

If data caps are a problem for some, none of those people would be obligated to download ANYTHING in 4K... just as anyone pinched by data caps such that 1080p file sizes are too large can opt for the 720p or SD versions. In a 4K TV scenario, those who can make 1080p or 720p or SD work with their own situation- and bandwidth limitations- can continue downloading whatever they download now. Net result: bandwidth limitations/caps are irrelevant here unless those with caps CHOOSE to collide with their own caps by downloading 4K files anyway.

Apparently "no one" must include me, because I care. Within this very thread there are other "no ones" who care too. Just because YOU don't care does NOT make YOUR view representative of everyone's view. I can respect that you don't care about 4K. Can you respect that other people DO care about 4K? (rhetorical: I'm guessing you can't).

 

[jimmirehman]

Believe what you wish. I doubt you can find many who are going to agree that TVs are 1-2 year disposable products. I know of no such people and I'm pretty passionate about this particular topic. In fact, I think that feeds into the "1080p is good enough" sentiment even within this thread- a desire to NOT replace a perfectly good TV set with a new 4K one until the 1080p set dies (which, of course, nobody would have to replace any set anyway, as better hardware would easily downscale to play on whatever 1080p or 720p set anyone owns & loves now).

If data caps are a problem for some, none of those people would be obligated to download ANYTHING in 4K... just as anyone pinched by data caps such that 1080p file sizes are too large can opt for the 720p or SD versions. In a 4K TV scenario, those who can make 1080p or 720p or SD work with their own situation- and bandwidth limitations- can continue downloading whatever they download now. Net result: bandwidth limitations/caps are irrelevant here unless those with caps CHOOSE to collide with their own caps by downloading 4K files anyway.

Apparently "no one" must include me, because I care. Within this very thread there are other "no ones" who care too. Just because YOU don't care does NOT make YOUR view representative of everyone's view. I can respect that you don't care about 4K. Can you respect that other people DO care about 4K? (rhetorical: I'm guessing you can't).

i apologize, i see your point.