Diamond tester on camera glass

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  1. shuravko macrumors newbie

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    Does anybody tried this tool to figure out if it's sapphire?

    Maybe it's possibele to pop in jewelry store?
     
  2. areyes163 macrumors 6502

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    That sounds like a good idea. I'd like to see this.
     
  3. dmx macrumors 6502

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    It's sapphire. Period. Apple lists it as sapphire. Phil has confirmed its sapphire. Apple isn't going to put themselves at risk by lying over something that could be so easily debunked.
     
  4. shuravko thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Well, there are numerous reports of scratching. So to finally resolve that mystery it's good to have scientific experiment.
     
  5. matt550, Sep 25, 2016
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    What is a diamond tester going to show? That's it's not a diamond...? Diamond and Sapphire (corundum) are not the same...
     
  6. T5BRICK macrumors 604

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    There is no mystery. Sapphire can scratch.
     
  7. shuravko thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Hardness of crystal. There is scale on it. If it's sapphire it should be bit softer than diamond.
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  8. matt550 macrumors 6502

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    Diamond is a 10, sapphire is a 9.

    Diamond testers’ principle of operation is based on the fact that different gemstones conduct heat differently. Heat will pass through a diamond in a different way than it would through cubic zirconia or glass.

    A diamond tester will detect the rate at which heat moves through the stone and will tell you whether it is a real diamond.

    Testing it on sapphire will tell you it's not diamond.
     
  9. shuravko thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I have my own diamond tester, it's called nose. You can easily figure out if watch have sapphire glass by touching it with tip of the nose. Sapphire will be cold and mineral glass will not. Watches should be at room temperature, not on wrist. ;)
     
  10. KillaMac Suspended

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    Edit, someone beat me to it. :) But go educate yourself, that tester will prove it's not glass.
     
  11. sekazi macrumors 6502

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    There is an AR coating on the lens. That will scratch long before the lens will.
     
  12. KillaMac Suspended

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    Unless they just started to use an AR coating, the 6s didn't and it wouldn't scratch like the 7 does.
     
  13. lordofthereef macrumors G5

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    Don't see why people are giving the OP such a hard time. Blindly accepting something as true just because someone you deem of great importance said it is not a way I choose to live my life.

    It doesn't particularly matter to me what this is made out of, but if it did, I certainly wouldn't just accept Phil at his word because he has a lot to lose.

    Let's take a look st what Wells Fargo was just caught doing to their customers as evidence that you can't be too big to pull some BS. Not saying Apple is doing this at all. But if it's testable, why be so reluctant? Seems to me a pick designed to scratch different materials of different hardness would be a good enough test.
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    I don't even understand the point. Use a material that is almost in scratchable in the name of clarity but then cover it with a material that is much more easily scratched in the name of anti reflectivity. If one layer scratched anyway why even care about sapphire?
     
  14. shuravko thread starter macrumors newbie

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    It's a very thin layer, it will be no deep scratches in this case. What was sown on video is a really deep an visible scratches.
     
  15. Hogg macrumors regular

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    I know it's listed as Sapphire on Apple's site, but there's no doubt something is a little different with this year's camera lens/home button covers. Whether it's a coating on top, who knows... but it does seem to scratch a tad bit easier that previous Sapphire lens covers.

    Zach from Jerryrig, thought it wasn't Sapphire, as he was able to scratch it with a level 6 pick. Something he wasn't able to do with the iPhone 6 series. The home button also scratched with a level 6 pick.



    Interesting for sure. Fun to test stuff like this in any event :) And always healthy to question authority ;)
     
  16. chrizzz09 macrumors regular

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    I keep seeing people mentioning "various tests showed its not sapphire" and "that JerryRig scratched the 7 but not the 6".

    First of all, besides the JerryRig video one post above me, there is literally no video on the internet doing the same test with a hardness pick.

    Second, if you watched JerryRigs past videos on the 6 and 6s you would see that he didn't use hardness picks on the camera lens on those devices. He just used a knife on them.

    Actually we haven't got a single video on the internet, testing the camera lens for the 6 and 6s being actually sapphire.
     

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