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I was hoping for the 13" MacBook Pro with a 1440 X 900 screen, and discrete graphics. I considered buying a Sony just as you are, but after switching to a 15" MacBook Pro a week ago, i'd never go back to a PC! And anyone that tells you they never had any issues with Windows 98, Vista, or XP never really used their computer as intended. Windows Vista was the worst OS I have ever used and crashed so many times! You just need to use a MacBook for a few hours to realize how superior they are.. The keyboard, trackpad, and screen are awesome, much better than anything else I've used. It's fast, and extremely stable. I haven't had a single error in Snow Leopard. It just works, and very well! Even though the 13" doesn't have a discrete GPU anymore, it's worth the trade off for the other things you'll love about the MacBook. They look one way on paper, but in real life you would be happier with the MacBook.

Which of the 15'' models do you have, is the base model enough to play some games at low/medium settings?
 
That is why I haven't made my mind up yet, if Apple used Windows then I wouldn't even consider it giving the prices.:cool:


windows on a mac out of the box? :confused:

so whats the point of buying a mac? lol

you sir need to delete your account from this forum . thank you : )
 
windows on a mac out of the box? :confused:

so whats the point of buying a mac? lol

you sir need to delete your account from this forum . thank you : )

Why? :confused: What's wrong with that? :confused:

I run Windows 24/7 on my MBP & I don't think it is wrong to do that. :eek:
 
BLOATWARE!BLOATWARE!BLOATWARE!...and if you do a clean install you lose half your hardware buttons or the webcam as sony locks them to the bloatware recovery disk!

They do EVERYTHING in there power to wiggle out of the warranty!

And the battery's fail and wont hold charger after 6 months and that's perfect timing as you only get 6 months warranty on a battery!

Alot of cheaper Vaios are not being made by sony any more but by cheep outsourced Chinese manufactures, like buying a cheep bosh washer then discovered it was made in spain by a generic washer maker and fails every month!
 
it is not impossible to get a virus on a Mac. windows owns something like 90% of the market. and declining. as apple computers grow in market share you will see people create viruses for the platform. but by that time it will be very hard because the OS X will have gone 64bit, making it much harder to create viruses.
 
not to mention the trackpad on the mbp's have an epic user experience IMO.

THIS.

I will never leave apple for this reason alone. Apple has killed my computer experience with anything else that isn't an apple computer. I now bring my MBP to school with me because I can't stand the windows computers. That or I come up with an excuse to use one of our Mac Pro's :D :cool::apple: its astounding how much you can throw at them.
 
I don't have an issue with Windows 7 as much as I have an issue with the companies that produce computers designed to run it. At home I never have any major issues but at work our IT team supports about 900 desktops and laptops. Windows 7 overall has been a blessing (we were running Windows XP 64bit) but the hardware it typically runs on is a nightmare, especially the laptops. Lets just say there is a reason the IT dept. has a pretty high number of MBPs and for some of our internal web applications the best device is an iPad. F*&$ Internet Explorer.
 
I was interested in the Sony notebook you referenced, but like Dell's, the Sony site is so confusing. It's like Sony wants to obfuscate the products it sells from the consumer. I thought I had finally found the notebook you mentioned, but I don't think it was because the processor speed was different.

It made me realize that Apple does so many basic things right, like maintaing an easy-to-understand website, which its competition does not. You take these things Apple does well for granted because it seems obvious that all companies should do them well. But in contrast to Dell and Sony, when you go to Apple's site, you can clearly see which computers they sell. And they clearly explain the features.

When I tried customizing the graphics on a 13" Sony notebook this was the explanation of the upgraded video card:

Graphics Card

How do dedicated graphics effect PC performance?
Dedicated graphics (also called "GPU" or "video card") is critical for use with programs that have intense video graphics, which many of today's games and other media do. If your video card gets overloaded, your processor will borrow memory from your PC RAM which will result in slower reaction time, especially if your are running other applications. So, the more memory you have on your video card, the less your processor will have to borrow to display graphics, which will ultimately lead to better overall performance. Intel® Wireless Display technology available with Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator HD.​

I bolded "effect" just to point out that, not only is the site a complete disaster in many big ways, but also some small ways, such as grammar. That paragraph just does not read well in general, e.g., "the more memory you have on your video card." A person doesn't have memory on his or her video card! A person's video card has memory!

At the end it has a phrase that isn't a sentence and references a Graphics Media Accelerator that you can't even choose as an option and is referenced nowhere else on the page. And Apple would never refer to one of the graphics options on their computers as being "overloaded."

I'm not a stickler for good grammar at all. I was just so unimpressed with the confusing layout of the site and poor presentation of the product. I think a lot of what Apple is lauded for having accomplished is their ability to present to the consumer something that is sensible and obvious. I'm not sure why that is so difficult for other companies to do.
 
he is saying ( or from what i understand) that apple , APPLE COMPUTERS , should come ONLY with windows , just like a pc .

He is saying, from what I understand, that if it wasn't for OSX he wouldn't even consider a Mac considering the apple tax.
 
Sheesh you guys lol.

I love my Vaio F. I really like the high res 1920x1080 screen, and I love that the amount of performance and screen I got cost only $1400.

The only thing I don't like is the battery life, and .. well.. you get what you pay for right? Meh. I can drag around my brick for now, I'm just worried when I get into the uni that they won't have plugs all over the place!
 
BLOATWARE!BLOATWARE!BLOATWARE!...and if you do a clean install you lose half your hardware buttons or the webcam as sony locks them to the bloatware recovery disk!

They do EVERYTHING in there power to wiggle out of the warranty!

And the battery's fail and wont hold charger after 6 months and that's perfect timing as you only get 6 months warranty on a battery!

Alot of cheaper Vaios are not being made by sony any more but by cheep outsourced Chinese manufactures, like buying a cheep bosh washer then discovered it was made in spain by a generic washer maker and fails every month!
True. My last VAIO experience was HORRIBLE. It has now officially become a paper-weight. Half of the hardware functions don't work due to the lack of support from Sony and terrible experience in finding drivers. The model no. printed on the bottom of the machine is not the real model no., that's really... Wonderful.
 
Looks interesting and nice to see 6630m option in there, but still only 720p screen and 5-6 weeks shipping would put me off.
If it was easily available and I was able to see the quality of this Vaio Display Plus might be interesting, but you can just walk into an apple store and see the high quality notebooks and walk away with one on the day.
 
The only thing you'll get from your Sony is a headache and continuing bills from all the virus software and support you'll be paying for.

These kind of comments are what makes the mac community look bad.

I mean have you ever used PCs with half a brain sir?
 
Which of the 15'' models do you have, is the base model enough to play some games at low/medium settings?

The base 15" will run ANY game at low/medium settings. People really overestimate the importance of a expensive GPU nowadays. Basically, you don't need anything better than a modern medium-level GPU to play anything you want. High-end cards are only required if you want to play on extreme settings/extreme resolutions with AA and/or see extreme fps.
 
The base 15" will run ANY game at low/medium settings. People really overestimate the importance of a expensive GPU nowadays. Basically, you don't need anything better than a modern medium-level GPU to play anything you want. High-end cards are only required if you want to play on extreme settings/extreme resolutions with AA and/or see extreme fps.

I have to disagree.

It can most likely run 'ANY' game, but not at a 35 fps.
 
I have to disagree.

It can most likely run 'ANY' game, but not at a 35 fps.

I use my 2009 MBP (with the 9600GT GPU) for gaming occasionally, and I haven't yet found any game that would cause any trouble for the 1440 x 900 resolution. Of course, for some games you have to lower the settings a bit.

As the new MBP is faster in every aspect, I highly doubt it will struggle.

P.S. I remember how I played though stalker: clear sky on the 9400M :) Now, that wasn't fun. I had to push the graphics all the way down and even lower the resolution a bit.
 
These kind of comments are what makes the mac community look bad.

I mean have you ever used PCs with half a brain sir?

Why so defensive? He's right in a way though, along with your vaio, or any other windows computer, you get tons of unnecessary, unwanted ***** you never asked for, in contrary to apple.
 
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