Difference between Cocktail, Onyx and Mac Pilot?

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  1. MacFanJeff macrumors regular

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    Just wanted to get some feedback and see what most people like for ease of use among those programs. Cocktail, Onyx and Mac Pilot all seem to do much the same thing. I would like something that is easy to use, has a great interface, etc. but don't know much about the difference between them.

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  2. tMac85 macrumors 65816

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    im not to sure on the difference between the 3, i only have onxy and never saw the need to try other or switch. Onyx is easy with a lot of cleaning options. i would say its the most popular of the three. ( but thats just from what i read on here)
     
  3. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    Cocktail and Mac Pilot are shareware. OnyX is free. I stopped using Cocktail when it was converted from freeware to shareware. Mac Pilot is primarily a customization utility, whereas the others are primarily maintenance utilities. On rare occasion, I will run OnyX. However, there is no real benefit to any of this stuff. MacOS X's HFS+ Journaled file system is bulletproof or darned close to it. I have yet to encounter a problem this side of a failed hard drive that File System Check (fsck -fy) run from the command line in Single User Mode could not fix. Prior to Leopard, DiskWarrior was the file recovery utility of choice. However, Time Machine, if activated, pretty much renders it obsolete.
     
  4. thertrain macrumors member

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    Why Use Them?

    I have to agree with the post above... I don't know why anyone would use these. I have OnyX but never use it. All the maintenance scripts run automatically. The computer runs faster with certain caches built up. :confused:
     
  5. burningrave101 macrumors 6502

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    Mac Pilot has a lot of nice customization options that makes it easier to tweak certain settings in a GUI instead of the need to do it via command line or with some other shortcut. The only negative thing about Mac Pilot is that it's a 15 day trialware so you would need to purchase it if you intended to continue on using it.
     
  6. ltldrummerboy macrumors 68000

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    I would suggest MainMenu. Since my MacBook is asleep most of the time I have to run the maintenance scripts manually. I also use it to show hidden files and folders. It's pretty handy.
     
  7. Dorse macrumors newbie

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    Cocktail used to purge inactive RAM

    I went up to 18GB RAM but still saw much of that get tied up as inactive RAM. That slowed down the computer, so I have Cocktail open but hidden at startup, along with Activity Monitor, which I periodically check and, when the blue gets substantial, spilling over 50%, I run Cocktail>System>Memory>Purge. That makes that RAM available for ongoing use.
     
  8. snarfquest macrumors regular

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    I find Onyx useful to change some system settings easily. Obviously those settings can be changed in other places but Onyx has most of the things I want to change about Finder all in 1 easy place. After running Onyx once to tune things the way I like, I don't really use it ever again.
     
  9. robgendreau macrumors 68040

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    Some people in this thread seem to misunderstand the um, utility, of these utilities. Sure, you could probably get along without them, and you can certainly replicate most everything they do with Terminal, but they are easier to use.

    I don't have need for tweaking maintenance scripts, although these will do that. What I've found them handy for is nuking caches. I recently had a borked font cache, for example. And also a QT snafu. I could search out where these caches are on the internet and then run a rm in Terminal, but these make it much faster.

    MacPilot is also significantly different than the other two. It has customization features not only for the system software, but also third party applications. I've used it to tweak settings you can only access via Terminal or manually editing plists, and to edit file attributes and things like ACLs. It has a database of error codes, and access to things like open ports. Again, I could get that stuff in other ways but it's nice to have it in one spot. I'd recommend you download and give it a try; it can be a real time saver.

    And BTW, I have to disagree with someone who mentioned that utilities like DiskWarrior were obsolete. Maybe for him, but it recently saved my data when a drive failed. It was a laptop, so TM didn't help since I wasn't connected. Disk Utility and fsk didn't repair it, but DW was able to rebuild the directory well enough for me to save files. Certainly a backup is better, but we don't always have access to one.
     

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