I've noticed that several stores still sell the 1st gen rMBPs (the 15" released in June 2012 and the 13" released in October). I've noticed that they are sometimes offered at a competitive price. The processors of the 2nd gen models (released in February 2013) are slightly faster, but, apart from that, are any other differences? Are issues solved? Better screens? Better batteries?
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Differences between 1st and 2nd gen rMBP
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http://www.apple.com/pr/library/201...rices-of-MacBook-Pro-with-Retina-Display.html
Nope just some prices drops and minor processor bumps.
Nope just some prices drops and minor processor bumps.
I believe there were other "under the hood" changes, like improved thermal management. A quick search of the forums will yield an answer, OP.
I believe we will continue to see changes in Gen 2 of the MBPr. The minor speed bump was like Gen 1.1.
Having used Apple products for some time now, you tend to see Apple release a Gen 1 device. Gather a years worth of data and then make changes accordingly.
I am interested in what they do with the MBPr Gen2. I think they will address the following issues reported by different people:
Laggy GUI
Ghosting and IR
White spots along the bottom of the screen
Heat issues
SMC issues
I'm not saying everyone has all of these but over the course of ~ year people have reported issues like these.
Apple -like any company- can only do so much testing before you put it in the field with millions of people can use the product in a multitude of environments which Apple may not have thought of.
Should be an interesting WWDC.
-P
Having used Apple products for some time now, you tend to see Apple release a Gen 1 device. Gather a years worth of data and then make changes accordingly.
I am interested in what they do with the MBPr Gen2. I think they will address the following issues reported by different people:
Laggy GUI
Ghosting and IR
White spots along the bottom of the screen
Heat issues
SMC issues
I'm not saying everyone has all of these but over the course of ~ year people have reported issues like these.
Apple -like any company- can only do so much testing before you put it in the field with millions of people can use the product in a multitude of environments which Apple may not have thought of.
Should be an interesting WWDC.
-P
I believe we will continue to see changes in Gen 2 of the MBPr. The minor speed bump was like Gen 1.1.
Having used Apple products for some time now, you tend to see Apple release a Gen 1 device. Gather a years worth of data and then make changes accordingly.
I am interested in what they do with the MBPr Gen2. I think they will address the following issues reported by different people:
Laggy GUI
Ghosting and IR
White spots along the bottom of the screen
Heat issues
SMC issues
I'm not saying everyone has all of these but over the course of ~ year people have reported issues like these.
Apple -like any company- can only do so much testing before you put it in the field with millions of people can use the product in a multitude of environments which Apple may not have thought of.
Should be an interesting WWDC.
-P
This makes sense to me, and makes me wonder if they will wait on releasing Retina rev.2 until 10.9 is ready to ship with it. Mountain Lion was a huge improvement over Lion, and the first gen Retina should have launched with it.
doesn't happened on 2011...they refresh all lineup on february and then release Lion on june.....then we all have to pay (again) for it
doesn't happened on 2011...they refresh all lineup on february and then release Lion on june.....then we all have to pay (again) for it
Well, if you paid that lot of money for a laptop, then you should have no troubled in paying some 20 bucks for an upgrade of the OS X...
Just because it's cheap doesn't mean I want to pay for it! It's tipping the valet $3 instead of $2. In the grand scheme of things that's nothing, but if you decided every bit here and there was negligible than you'd be spending a lot necessary money. That's my 2 cents on money.
That said to me, the original reply meant more like having a stable OS for a new computer, nothing to do with money.
GUI is a software problem.
Any problems with teh screen is up to the producers of the screens to fix the problem (Samsung/LG). Unless Apple starts producing their own screens they really can't do anything about it other than to complain to them about the issues.
Heat and SMC issues I can't really comment on because as you stated not everyone has those issues and I honestly haven't had those issues. Obviously when gaming or doing heavy video rendering I expect the temps to jump but during normal usage they're fine.
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Totally agree and wouldn't be surprised if that was the case! Last year I was excited about the hardware (aka rMBP) because I was looking to replace my 06 Macbook. Now that I have the hardware I'm excited abou the software! Really hoping that 10.9 is optimized for the rMBP.
The world came crashing when AnandTech complained about the "facebook" lag stating that hardware was to blame. That same site a few months later found the webkit and went from saying it was a hardware problem to now a software problem.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6495/...erformance-on-macbook-pro-with-retina-display
Point being the hardware works its just a matter of having the software optimized for it and frankly ML wasn't polished/meant for retina.