Different view on the ipad maybe? maybe you like now yes?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by grooveattack, Feb 7, 2010.

  1. grooveattack macrumors 6502a

    Jan 9, 2008
    As it seems popular at the moment i thought i would throw in my opinion about the ipad, and who knows, might change some opinions about it.

    People are saying that it is a big ipod touch, well yes it is but i think that might be the idea.
    Flip things round for awhile, what if the ipad had been out for a few years and jobs just introed the touch now.
    People would be furious, "how will i surf the net on that tiny screen!" "its so much slower than an ipad!" "no 3g option WTF?!?!" no one would want it. people would be love using that big touch screen, fast processor and big screen apps and hate the every thing about the ipod touch.

    Back to reality, i think people are going to see how frustrating surfing on a 3.5 inch screen is and how the speed of apples chip makes a big difference.
    Thats why i am willing to let the ipad have a chance
    lets be honest, surfing the net on an ipod touch is a less than enriching experience, i think the ipad, simply because of the bigger screen will give a much better browsing experience (staying well away from the flash argument! ((flash is pants anyway!!!)) and of course you get extras like newly specially made full screen ipad apps, books store, iwork etc.

    Dont get me wrong, IF i get one of these i will have a dam good look at it 1st and give it my own inspection before going to buy it, it will have to pass my rigorous testing program.

    Well there is my opinion, i'm sorry, i just wanted to fit in and be cool.
    as they say, my 2 cents.
  2. bobob macrumors 68030


    Jan 11, 2008
    Excellent alternative reality - - provides an enlightening perspective on the positioning of the iPad!
  3. vannibombonato macrumors 6502

    Jun 14, 2007
    Mah...don't think so. People would:
    1- Think that it's neither revolutionary nor magical, as it's just a scaled-something of stuff they've already seen.
    2- Think that it's a fantastic technical achievement, as it's way harder to put same functions in a smaller tech device than the opposite way around.
    3- Think that it could be a very useful product, as it would allow them to do on the go stuff that it was not previously possible (having the real internet at your fingertips, apps, etc.).

    The ipad unfortunately is a different story, as it simply does the very same exact stuff you can do on your iphone/ipods or laptop/desktop, only in slightly different ways (better or worse, depending on cases). But with endless compromises (portability, power, etc.). Some will like it, some others not. This is certainly down to personal preferences, but i think that it's quite objective to say that what we have been shown is not a leap forward like the iphone was for example (which yes, like everything in this world was imperfect, but brought on earth a revolutionary way to interact with machines).
    The ipad case is it's just a matter of expectations: most of ipad complainers are simply questioning the grotesque distance from the way it is being marketed and the factual reality. No one would be complaining if this was being presented as a very edgy gadget that can be used as a very cool device for some particular uses.

    To say that the iPad will be revolutionary in 3 years from now, once we will have 3 revisions, it's like saying that tablets will be revolutionary once someone gets them right.

    Anyway...if an app gets out that will allow me to control my music mixers i'lll be certainly getting one :)
  4. greygray macrumors 68000


    Oct 22, 2009
    Yes, I think Apple is not considering the iPad as part of the Mac line-up but rather, as an oversized iPod touch which can run iWork, making it also a portable book reader, web surfer and work editor on the go. Too bad it can't make calls despite having 3G.

    While I have a MBP and will be ordering a iPad, I don't find my 3GS's screen frustrating to surf the net on.
  5. Gav2k macrumors G3


    Jul 24, 2009
    I think the haters have missed the point of the ipad.
  6. ditzy macrumors 68000


    Sep 28, 2007
    As far as I'm aware Apple have only done one event, and one web ad, on their site, to promote the iPad. The rest of the hype was created by the press.
  7. yodaxl7 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 25, 2010
    Iphone was the 1st step of innovation

    The Ipad is the extension of the innovating Iphone!! The iPhone had people's jaws dropped into the core of the earth! The Ipad is a timid extension, but given how the tablet form factor is hard, it is great!! From face value, it is not so impressive, but once we have it, I am sure we'll enjoy it!!
  8. melman101 macrumors 68030

    Sep 3, 2009
    Day 1 I hated it.

    Then I realized all the amazing apps that could exist for iPad. I can't miss out on that action. As a developer myself, I see insane potential. And I believe people will develop for it.

    I am flip-flopping on which one to get, but 3G 32GB seems likely for me.

    I don't want to miss out on any features (GPS, etc.).
  9. yodaxl7 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 25, 2010
    Ipad is a branch from the ipod touch tree! Or you can say it's an offspring of sort. In 2 to 3 years, it will be far different from the iphone or ipod touch line. In fact, it is already different in presentation. Obviously, the note application, mail, etc. are different from the mini versions. They got the pop over menues plus dual screen in landscape view, etc. These are small differences. Bigger difference for now is the hardware: processor speed for one. So, in 2 to 3 years, who knows how far they will diverge!!!
  10. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    Why do people come to this conclusion? There's nothing too hard to "get" about the iPad. It's not revolutionary. It's evolutionary.

    I'm not a hater - but at the same time, the iPad has no place in my life as it was demonstrated (let me repeat that - AS IT WAS DEMONSTRATED) at the keynote.

    When there's another revision and/or there are things the iPad can do/has that were NOT demonstrated, my personal opinion/desire might change.

    In the meantime, I am very content with my iMac, MacBook Pro, 3GS and Kindle. For outside portability, my 3GS is great and on trips, the MacBook is great (as well as moving it around the apt/etc) and I've had a kindle for a few months now and prefer it lightspeeds over reading on any other backlit device. Again - my preferences. It's not that I (or others) don't GET the iPad.
  11. Gav2k macrumors G3


    Jul 24, 2009
    I do t get alot of devices. I don't have a need for them but I do not bitch about it!
  12. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    I don't disagree that some are b*tching about it - but this is a message board - so really - what do you expect.

    On the flip side- anyone, it seems, who doesn't consider the iPad a jesus device is being written off as not getting it or bitching or being a hater.

    People need to accept the fact that every device is not for every person. That doesn't make them a hater anymore than anyone who likes the iPad is immediately a "fanboy"

    The hyperbole here is ridiculous. (ETA) Posting an alternate viewpoint doesn't equate to b*tching about it. Again - we are ALL entitled to our opinions.
  13. NotTempted macrumors member

    Feb 4, 2010
    Estero, Florida
    I think the iphone and the touch were test runs. I would rather have the Ipad then the Kindle. If I had a Kindle right now that thing would be plastered all over CraigsL for sure. The Kindle never Kindled me anyway. I never felt all warm and fuzzy inside by looking at grey scale media.-my preferences;)

    I think that it is defiantly evolutionary for the most part and the marketing plan by apple fell flat on its face. I was so underwhelmed after watching the keynote (minus iwork) that I thought. "its for the elderly with vision problems" It was not until I looked at the foundation put forth by the iphone and touch that I began to grasp that the product itself very well thought out and for that matter a mandatory step in touch tech evolution. With all of the dev work that occurred with these devices it was almost imperative that apple innovate and expand the screen space. I could see the iphone busting at the seams with ideas that would only become a plausible reality when the screen size was increased.
  14. chstr macrumors 6502a


    Mar 25, 2009
    I'm def open to giving it a chance, just not at 500 bucks. I'll get one used or refurbed later on after we know the bugs
  15. bossxii macrumors 68000

    Nov 9, 2008
    Kansas City
    First off I agree 100% with your view of how it would be viewed if released before the iPod. Makes perfect sense to me, but then again "common sense" is clearly what's missing in the MR forum so... anyhow.

    As to your rigorous testing program? This sounds like like a statement made by a car company about running their cares into walls :eek: Are you going to toss it off a building or blend it or... poor iPad ;) :D
  16. grooveattack thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Jan 9, 2008
    my program consists of:
    1. use as a chopping bored.
    2. use as a sled.
    3. use as a plate
    4. email
    5. if i run it hot enough will it iron my clothes?

    i cant go into any more detail you'll understand but i feel if it does well in these tests i will 100% get one.
  17. 1appleAday macrumors regular

    Mar 27, 2008
    6. when your gf becomes moody ;) lol
  18. cmturner2 macrumors member


    Jan 31, 2008
    Apex, NC
    Not everyone needs a Mac Pro. But some do.
    Not everyone needs an iMac. But some do.
    Not everyone needs an iPhone. But some do.
    Not everyone needs a Mac Mini. But some do.
    Not everyone needs a MacBook Pro. But some do.
    Not everyone needs an AppleTV. But some do.
    Not everyone needs an iPad. But some people will find it to be for them, and this is the market being created.
  19. Peter95 macrumors member

    Jan 27, 2010
    If the itouch came out after the ipad, I think it'll still be as popular ad it is today....
    Most people like having an iPod that has a full touch interface. What's not to like... ? Either way, some people will like the new ipad, some won't....
    If I had the extra cash to burn for something cool to be at home I would invest, but I don't have the money to.

    Personally, I think if the ipad had a better name, it would sell more...
  20. Michael CM1 macrumors 603

    Feb 4, 2008
    I'm on the fence about wanting one, but I can see the awesome possibilities.

    My top problem is buying this for Internet use and then getting yet another charge from AT&T. Honestly, is anybody going to use this AND an iPhone at the same time? Considering how much income we're throwing at AT&T for the iPhones, a little bone would be nice for something like this. If you were able to pop the SIM card out of your iPhone and straight into your iPad, then I would be rushing to the front of the line. But considering the iPad is one of two devices in the US to use the micro SIM, we know that won't happen.

    I will probably end up with one, but I'm not sure. I want an e-reader, but what happens to my Kindle books? I have about 10 of them that I paid for. I honestly didn't believe that Apple would get into selling books. It would REALLY be nice for the e-reader market to stabilize and be as user-friendly as the digital music market now. I buy music from iTunes, it works in iTunes. I buy from Amazon, it works in iTunes. I buy a CD and rip, it works in iTunes.

    The book publishers are going to go down the same stupid path the music industry did for who knows how many years before my above scenario finally unfolds. Sure, allow for special features that are device-specific. But there will be no e-book competition outside of devices with the current setup.

    After all that ranting, I'm not feeling good about getting an iPad when they come out. Maybe I'll put that money toward a new TV. They have these crazy new TVs that play signals from Dish Network, a Wii, and a Blu-ray player. INSANITY!
  21. Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Jul 17, 2008
    I expect we'll be able to read them on the iPad using the Kindle app for the iPhone. I also think it highly likely that Amazon will come up with an enhanced-for-iPad version of the Kindle app.

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