Digital camera RAW formats supported by iOS 16, iPadOS 16, and macOS Ventura

[BenGieCruz]

Have any of you found a camera (RAW) compatibility list for Ventura yet?

 

[Stalonium]

I'm very interested in this well. Hoping there will finally be native support for fuji's lossless compressed raw files.

 

[BenGieCruz]

iOS 16 doesn't support my A7IV yet so i suppose Ventura still in the same boat.

 

[jaymc]

It's not listed under - About this Mac > System Report > Raw Support like in Monterey?

 

[Stalonium]

It's not listed under - About this Mac > System Report > Raw Support like in Monterey?

The Raw Support page in the System Report doesn't list the restrictions on file types. For example, it lists raw support for the Fujifilm X-T4 but it doesn't list the restriction that compressed and lossless compressed raw files are not support. I was hoping Ventura would expand that raw support to compressed/lossless compressed raw files.

 

[JimmyG]

Odd thing, Final Cut and iMovie have native ProRes RAW support for Panasonic GH6, but no native MacOS love for GH6 RAW still format in Monterey?

It's half-past August already and that camera has been out since March, what's the hold up Apple?

 

[jaymc]

Nikon Z9 not listed either; odd.

 

[BenGieCruz]

I'm hoping that with the Official release of Ventura in the fall they include support. My camera has been out for almost a year and still nada....

 

[JimmyG]

It's not listed under - About this Mac > System Report > Raw Support like in Monterey?

After checking this on my M1 MBP 12.5.1 it looks like Apple has not updated their camera support since May 2021 with the GH5 Mark II! 😖 Other cameras released since then and still awaiting native Apple support...

Jun 29th	Nikon Z30
June 2022
May 31st	Fujifilm X-H2S
May 24th	Canon EOS R7 Canon EOS R10
May 2022
Feb 22nd	Panasonic Lumix DC-GH6
Feb 15th	OM System OM-1
February 2022
Jan 19th	Canon EOS R5 C
Jan 13th	Leica M11
January 2022
Oct 28th	Nikon Z9
Oct 21st	Sony a7 IV
Oct 7th	Panasonic Lumix DC-BS1H
October 2021
Sep 9th	Ricoh GR IIIx
Sep 2nd	Fujifilm GFX 50S II Fujifilm X-T30 II
September 2021
Jul 27th	Sony ZV-E10
July 2021
Jun 29th	Nikon Z fc
Jun 9th	Olympus PEN E-P7
June 2021
May 25th	Panasonic Lumix DC-GH5 II

...🛌😴💤. Above table generated by copy/paste of timeline from here...

Product timeline: Digital Photography Review : Digital Photography Review

Product timeline: Digital Photography Review : Digital Photography Review

Expert news, reviews and videos of the latest digital cameras, lenses, accessories, and phones. Get answers to your questions in our photography forums.

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There was a time back in the Aperture/iPhoto days when Apple would release not-tied-to-major-OS-releases Camera Raw Support downloadable updates for recent camera releases. The beauty of this method was that new-camera-buyers did not have to wait upwards of a year (or more) to make use of their new camera's Raw files, and folks not willing-or-able to update their computers to the latest OS could still enjoy support for their brand new camera's Raw's!

Wow, what an ingenious concept Apple! Uh, what happened to that practice?!

 

[JimmyG]

I was able to secure a list from a Ventura install for the current state of Camera RAW supported in Ventura and compare that list against my Monterey install...

Ventura Raw Support for cameras released since Monterey...

NO Not supported in Ventura,
YES New supported added in Ventura,
YES M&V Support had been added to Monterey via an undocumented MacOS update at some point and continues in Ventura.

2022

Oct 26th - OM System OM-5 NO, Sony a7R V NO
Oct 13th - Sony ZV-1F NO

Sep 28th - Sony FX30 NO
Sep 8th - Fujifilm X-H2 NO
Sep 7th - Hasselblad X2D 100c NO

Jun 29th - Nikon Z30 NO

May 31st - Fujifilm X-H2S NO
May 24th - Canon EOS R7 YES M&V , Canon EOS R10 YES M&V

Feb 22nd - Panasonic Lumix DC-GH6 NO
Feb 15th - OM System OM-1 YES

Jan 19th - Canon EOS R5 C NO
Jan 13th - Leica M11 NO

2021

Oct 28th - Nikon Z9 YES
Oct 21st - Sony a7 IV YES M&V
Oct 7th - Panasonic Lumix DC-BS1H NO

Sep 9th - Ricoh GR IIIx NO - Note: No Ricoh Camera RAW support in MacOS ***This information incorrect, Ricoh GR, GR II, GR III RAW support found under Pentax Ricoh listing for M&V
Sep 2nd - Fujifilm GFX 50S II NO, Fujifilm X-T30 II NO

Jul 27th - Sony ZV-E10 NO

Jun 29th - Nikon Z fc YES M&V
Jun 9th - Olympus PEN E-P7 NO

May 25th - Panasonic Lumix DC-GH5 II (most recent camera in Monterey)

Interesting to me is how Canon R7 and R10 along with the Sony a7 IV and along with the Nikon Z fc got to somehow see MacOS support added in between a major OS release. The only two recent cameras that are actually added in Ventura are the Olympus (OM System) OM-1 and the Nikon Z9. No native Ventura RAW love for Fuji, Hasselblad, Leica, Olympus, Ricoh, some Sony and my Panasonic GH6.

To opine, briefly...as a long time Mac user (since 1995) this information comes as a disappointment to see so many recent camera releases go wanting for native RAW support on a system I've come to know and rely-on. A far cry from just a few years ago when Apple would supply semi-regular Camera RAW updates for Aperture, iPhoto and Preview in-between OS releases.

As of this writing, Apple has yet to publish their own updated Ventura documentation to...

Digital camera RAW formats supported by iOS 15, iPadOS 15, and macOS Monterey - Apple Support

Digital camera RAW formats supported by iOS 15, iPadOS 15, and macOS Monterey - Apple Support

These operating systems include system-level support for RAW images taken by many third-party cameras.

support.apple.com

...my above reporting is based solely on the "in situ" system reports generated by that Ventura install and my Monterey install.

 

[JimmyG]

Well, it's official now, Apple just published their official RAW support list yesterday (dated Nov. 1, 2022)...

Digital camera RAW formats supported by iOS 16, iPadOS 16, and macOS Ventura - Apple Support

Digital camera RAW formats supported by iOS 16, iPadOS 16, and macOS Ventura - Apple Support

These operating systems include system-level support for RAW images taken by many third-party cameras.

support.apple.com

...and there's no native RAW support in Ventura for the following cameras released since Monterey last year (alphabetical by manufacturer this time)...

Fujifilm X-H2, X-H2S, GFX 50S II, X-T30 II
Hasselblad X2D 100C
Leica M11
Nikon Z30
Olympus Pen E-P7
OM System OM-5
Panasonic GH6, BS-1H
Ricoh GR IIIX
Sony ZV-1F, FX-30, ZV-E10. a7R V

...which jibes with the Ventura/Monterey RAW list comparison provided earlier in this thread.

 

[jannolii]

Well, it's official now, Apple just published their official RAW support list yesterday (dated Nov. 1, 2022)...

Digital camera RAW formats supported by iOS 16, iPadOS 16, and macOS Ventura - Apple Support
https://support.apple.com/en-mide/HT213267

...and there's no native RAW support in Ventura for the following cameras released since Monterey last year (alphabetical by manufacturer this time)...

Fujifilm X-H2, X-H2S, GFX 50S II, X-T30 II
Hasselblad X2D 100C
Leica M11
Nikon Z30
Olympus Pen E-P7
OM System OM-5
Panasonic GH6, BS-1H
Ricoh GR IIIX
Sony ZV-1F, FX-30, ZV-E10. a7R V

...which jibes with the Ventura/Monterey RAW list comparison provided earlier in this thread.

I just checked and my Sony a7m4 raw files are not supported on a latest official macOS Ventura. Also iOS 16.1 won’t show them. Is there an update I have to wait for in order their claim to become true?

 

[JimmyG]

I just checked and my Sony a7m4 raw files are not supported on a latest official macOS Ventura. Also iOS 16.1 won’t show them. Is there an update I have to wait for in order their claim to become true?

Hi jannolii,

Well, that's interesting to read, seeing how Apple specifically lists the camera in the linked post, and that it shows up in the Ventura RAW Support list from Ventura that was supplied to me.

I'm curious, what Apple software are you using that's not opening your ILCE-7M4 RAW files? (I.e. Apple Photos, Preview, etc.?)


Jimmy G

 

[jannolii]

Hi jannolii,

Well, that's interesting to read, seeing how Apple specifically lists the camera in the linked post, and that it shows up in the Ventura RAW Support list from Ventura that was supplied to me.

I'm curious, what Apple software are you using that's not opening your ILCE-7M4 RAW files? (I.e. Apple Photos, Preview, etc.?)


Jimmy G

Apple Photos. Tried Lightroom Classic and it showed same images without problem. Actually.. exported them from Apple Photos and then imported into Lightroom Classic.

 

[jannolii]

Apple Photos. Tried Lightroom Classic and it showed same images without problem. Actually.. exported them from Apple Photos and then imported into Lightroom Classic.

Hi jannolii,

Well, that's interesting to read, seeing how Apple specifically lists the camera in the linked post, and that it shows up in the Ventura RAW Support list from Ventura that was supplied to me.

I'm curious, what Apple software are you using that's not opening your ILCE-7M4 RAW files? (I.e. Apple Photos, Preview, etc.?)


Jimmy G

The strangest thing just happened… Photos on iPhone (iOS 16.1) just started to show those RAW files. I didn’t do anything to get it working. It just happened by itself. Apple Photos on macOS Ventura still don’t show them.