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It's different than LCD in handling panel refresh, yes, but it still has a max refresh rate. Think of a scrolling motion that lasts one second. How many times can a pixel be given new instructions within that second? In that sense it's the exact same with OLED as LCD... i.e. the motion smoothing effect is largely the same.

Ok thanks. I understood it was more to do with the response time of the panel, or rather the ability of the pixels to respond to new requests, rather than an actual refresh of the whole panel per second irrespective. I stand corrected though.
 
Yep, 128, 256 and 512 and $100 less across the board.
I would understand $200 more for a Pro with 128GB versus the 11. I don't understand $300 and 64GB.
Better make them for free right? Free is much better
 
Why 5g or 120 refresh rate? 5g has nothing to do with the refresh rate, but what is more baffling is that if Apple does not adopt 5g then they will be behind at that point, so 5g has to be a feature included.
 
Trying to understand the correlation between 5G and 120hz.
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Nope, you’re simply way off base.

I had previously suggested just a $100 price cut, but with 128 GB as the base.



Of course, that’s not what he said at all. Nice straw man argument.
It was just as arbitrary.
 
Not difficult to predict. There is an established pattern in play here: Android vendors pioneer new tech, Apple adopts it a year or two later.
 
I’ve been using a 165Hz variable refresh rate display for years, it’s a massive improvement.
You don’t really notice any difference beyond 120Hz but the difference from 60Hz to 120Hz is massive, all displays from laptops and desktops to phones and tablets should use 120Hz or higher.

I really wish Apple would incorporate Variable Refresh Rate technology in all their devices, saves power, improves gaming and allows for all sorts of Refresh rates and there’s next to no downside for including it.
 
The only connection between 5G and 120Hz refresh rate is the fact that both are huge energy consumers. And for something like an iPhone, they’re both not a must-have as far as I’m concerned. I’d be more interested in the telecoms adding towers so that they simply improve coverage of 4G LTE. There are still enough times, even in larger cities, where standard coverage is crap, and adding 5G that has poor transmission around and through buildings is not a solution IMHO.
 
Trying to understand the correlation between 5G and 120hz.

I am assuming that it's because streaming video that runs at 120Hz means twice as many frames streamed per second...hence double the bandwidth requirement...would have thought was fairly obvious!

120Hz won't make any additional demands on bandwidth (hence no benefit for 5G) on anything where the video content is generated on-device such as games, but anything that streams will have increased bandwidth requirements.
 
I am assuming that it's because streaming video that runs at 120Hz means twice as many frames streamed per second...hence double the bandwidth requirement...would have thought was fairly obvious!

120Hz won't make any additional demands on bandwidth (hence no benefit for 5G) on anything where the video content is generated on-device such as games, but anything that streams will have increased bandwidth requirements.
I'm not sure that means double the bandwidth is required.
 
I don't care about either 5G or 120 Hz refresh rate, I hope they give you the option to op-out or disable, I prefer to have longer battery life.
 
I hope the 120 Hz doesn’t end up like QHD display where most of us prefer to opt FullHD in the settings to save battery.

Good for gaming but for normal use though experience most likely be good, but battery life may take hit.

5G is inevitable, that’s why I went for iPhone 11 instead of Pro Max(in addition to prohibitively expensive prices) hence I could replace after two years of use with iPhone 13 or 14... by that time 5G would be available in my place
 
120fps display is my #1 desired feature for iPhone and rMBP.

Hopefully YouTube and Sports broadcasts will then support 120fps too.
 
It's fine, you're just cheap.
Yeah, I guess I am... along with a heluvalot of other people in the world it seems.

Apple ramping up iPhone 11 assembly, cutting iPhone 11 Max orders

The iPhone 11 is believed to have sold upwards of 12 million units since its September launch. This marks a 15 percent improvement over the previously released iPhone XR. Due to the strong sales, Jun Zhang of Rosenblatt Securities predicts that Apple will increase production of the iPhone 11 by about 1.6 million units.

Conversely, Zhang believes that the iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max sales are down 15 percent compared to the sales of the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max.

Due to the weaker sales, Zhang guesses that the iPhone 11 Pro Max production will be cut by roughly two million units.


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It should be noted that they dropped iPhone 11 prices vs. the XR. BTW, your handle is appropriate.
 
5G has nothing to do with higher refresh rate panels.
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Yeah, I guess I am... along with a heluvalot of other people in the world it seems.

Apple ramping up iPhone 11 assembly, cutting iPhone 11 Max orders

The iPhone 11 is believed to have sold upwards of 12 million units since its September launch. This marks a 15 percent improvement over the previously released iPhone XR. Due to the strong sales, Jun Zhang of Rosenblatt Securities predicts that Apple will increase production of the iPhone 11 by about 1.6 million units.

Conversely, Zhang believes that the iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max sales are down 15 percent compared to the sales of the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max.

Due to the weaker sales, Zhang guesses that the iPhone 11 Pro Max production will be cut by roughly two million units.


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It should be noted that they dropped iPhone 11 prices vs. the XR. BTW, your handle is appropriate.

That's just quality data analytics and keeping that one month or less of inventory in the channels going at all times.
 
120hz displays will consume a good amount of battery power.

There goes a day and a half on one charge of awesome battery life on the 11 Pro Max.

These screens typically have dynamic refresh rates. 120Hz is great for scrolling web pages and other motion graphics, but it's useless for static images and full-screen video encoded at a lower frame rate.
 
I’m nervous about how this ProMotion 120Hz refresh rate is going to affect the battery. I’m getting great battery life on my iPhone 11 Pro Max, but I feel like this the battery life is going to decrease as it did when Apple went from the Apple Watch Series 4 to Series 5.
It didn't affect the iPads as well because of the 120 Hz being only reached when you actually touch the display. For movies, it switches down to 24 Hz, for instance. ProMotion goes both ways.
 
I'm not sure that means double the bandwidth is required.

Potentially not exactly double...but if you are displaying twice the number of frames (each frame being equivalent to a normal JPEG-type still image) then it's not unreasonable to assume that it would be double the bandwidth. If a film was twice as long (4 hours instead of two) it would have twice as many frames...in that scenario would you not expect it to be twice the file size? I presume so. So if a file ends up twice the size because of twice the frames, but those frames occur in the original time frame, then by extension the data rate/bandwidth doubles!

Of course, the streaming platform could choose to go with more aggressive video compression to reduce the bandwidth requirements...but assuming that all else remained equal, double the bandwidth is probably close.
 
Better make them for free right? Free is much better
That'd be greedy but cutting $100 bucks on the 11 Pro and 128Gb on the base model would be perfectly manageable. Apple managed to cut the base model by 50 bucks, they can cut the top one by 100.
 
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