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DigiTimes: Arm-Based 13-inch MacBook Pro and MacBook Air to Ship By End of 2020
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Apple supported Rosetta from Jan 2006 until Summer of 2011, so that allowed any upgraded users to support PPC software in the latest OS version for 5 1/2 years...
ARM based Macs means that in theory, we'll see iPads with MacOS. That would actually be pretty neat.
Because Ampere IPC isn't even matching Apple's own ARM implementation. They are basically ARM N1, or you could look at Amazon's Graviton 2 and see how it performs. Decent, but not enough for Apple yet.
A 5W A14 only run max clock on one core for 10-20 seconds. Bumping up Clock speed and all core you get much higher Power usage.
My body rejoices.
My wallet is in the corner, rocking back & forth, sucking its thumb.
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The last Mac I purchased was a 2012 model. That's 8 years and counting. My primary Mac is a 2011 model stuck on High Sierra (but still quite functional and speedy).
Meaning, if you buy an Intel Mac now you might have time to wait this out if Apple decides to backpedal out of this (which I doubt, but still).
That or to confirm that Apple made the right move and stick around for the "revolution".
And if you decide to jump ship, you'll already have a PC.
Simply put, it is not worth it to Apple to have as many varieties of chips as they bought from Intel... Intel only had that many varieties as a way of driving up revenue/profit but handicapping lower chips and giving upgrade options at a higher cost. Apple will likely have at most one chip per thermal (TDP) for a given device. In this case one chip for the entire Macbook Pro 13" notebook. The cost of manufacturing is less and Apple will put the most power they can get into that TDP and drive upgrades soley on memory, SSD, and likely LTE options (similar to iPads). In total Apple will likely have a chip for the Air (which will likely move completely into Entry market at a lower price) while focusing on more technology going into the Macbook Pro line. So I expect at most 3 varieties of chips for the laptop line. This will result in a lower entry price, as well as a savings of something like $500 on the upper end CPUs for laptops. Apple will have a higher selling entry level line as a result of it.
Apple's modus operandi has always been to deny what you don't plan to ship in the short term, then claim to have perfected it when they finally do ship it. I do not believe laptops will have 'touch first' but will support touch... The macOS 11 design has been updated with an obvious nod to the fact that touch is coming (making design changes to bring it into line with the iPad for control center and spreading out things on the menu bar that if not for touch would just be a meaningless rather uglifying change that will cause people with menu items up the wazoo to have problems fitting them in the menu bar now... The touch will allow you to interact with the iPad apps as they were designed to interact with touch. Pencil support, if it retains the current hinged design, would not be a good fit. The Entry level Macbook Air will likely move down, the pro machines will have much more functionality and performance than they do now. There are definite advantages to designing your own chip. Apple likely has more chip designers than AMD does at this point with a good team. If you look at the designs of AMDs single chip design for PS5 and XBox game consoles, I am sure Apple could do an equivalent with a 12 core (8 performance, 4 efficiency) with the equivalent graphics processor on package. With the power management built in to switch more power smartly between CPU/GPU (thermals) they should also be able to benefit there. Simply put, it is well within the realm of possibility that the performance of the Macbook Pro line will greatly exceed all existing laptops on the market.
In my case, it is mechanically fine. It even works in ultra low-level boot modes, like CMND+Alt to get to the boot selector. But higher level boot modes like Recovery or Safe mode and indeed a normal boot into the OS will cause the LMB-click to fail. I managed to enable the Accessibility feature to ignore the Trackpad when a mouse is connected, which circumvents the problem. A patch for now. Full wipe and reinstall this weekend.
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New processors aren't going to fix shoddy quality control on other hardware or software. The shoddy quality control has become the new standard at Apple, and I can't see how a shift to ARM will magically fix that.
What shoddy quality control? I’ve had this MBP for 7 years, using it 8-12 hours a day, every day. Still on the same battery and same OS install. I’ve not exactly been careful with it at all (it has suffered several falls) and the only thing wrong with it other than this trackpad issue is that the footpads have fallen off and two dead pixels appeared last year. Considering its age, I think I got my money’s worth.
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My 2008 - 2012 laptops still work today.
My 2017 15” MBP still works today, but last month I had the touchbar, top case, touchpad, keyboard and battery replaced because one key stuck sometimes. They couldn’t fix one key because the keyboard is riveted into place, so the entire top case has to be replaced.
Gen 2 usually fares a lot better than Gen 1 (OG iPad vs iPad 2, S0 watch vs S2 watch).
Gen 2 is definitely a safe buy, definitely safer vs Gen 1. Of course, for those who are not enthusiasts, waiting will give better products.
Look up Luke Miani’s video on first gen Apple products.
most of them aren’t that great.
i don't believe the spinning beachball is a function of the integrated graphics (and certainly isn't if it's appearing during non 3d work) It's likely a function of insufficient Ram
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I think there's unfortunately a risk here, however this isn't "gen 1 mac" (not a new product category) and gen 1 intel and gen 1 powermacs didn't have severe limitations nor shorter that predecessor lives did they? If apple can't an mac that works properly for more than a few years in 2020 then they really should'nt have switched from intel.
Any idea about the future of the app store and Gate Keeper?
Don' you think there's a risk that Apple will slowly go back to a closed Gate Keeper situation, before switching to a unified IOS/MAC OS app store?
That's the biggest fear I have with the transition to ARM : that we'll soon be unable to install third-party apps that don't come from the app store 😰
Don' you think there's a risk that Apple will slowly go back to a closed Gate Keeper situation, before switching to a unified IOS/MAC OS app store?
That's the biggest fear I have with the transition to ARM : that we'll soon be unable to install third-party apps that don't come from the app store 😰
The Air name is absolutely iconic, it’s not going anywhere. It may or may not be the smallest/lightest; it isn’t for iPad 🤷♂️