Why don't apple bring out something like a walkman which you dock your ipod into so that you can transfer CD's directly to it without the need for a computer? The CD player could also be used, wait for it, as a walkman if you just wanted to, it could also charge the ipod too. OK it sounds lame but there are lots of people out there who are bamboozeled about how to get music into an ipod and probaly don't even own a computer. We brought an ipod as a birthday present for someone (after they hinted at one) but when they received it they had to wait about a month before they found someone to show how to use itunes etc etc-we sent it overseas so couldn't help. Its arrogant to think that everyone feels comfortable with this brave new world of downloading software and being conversant with a computer-a lot of people hate them, my wife for example just uses email and word for word processing and just can't be bothered. So why not help the millions out by giving them a way to use an ipod without the need for a computer? I thought technology was about including people not excluding them. Or is an ipod just another tool designed to force people to buy computers or buy stuff off itunes? Why make people use computers when they don't want to-they probably have better things to do. There are an awful lot of people who just feel left behind by this ipod craze as they simply don't understand how to put music on the things and hate computers. I am being devils advocate here but I'm sure most people will know many people, young and old, male and female who are just turned off computers and by default ipods. Why not even combine a cd reader into an ipod, there must be a way surely?