I'm also done with Lion. I restored Snow Leopard last night. My machine is back to working as intended. Many of the "features" Lion has can be disabled. But if I wanted to do that, why not just stick with Snow Leopard and not have to disable anything?
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disable "reopen windows when logging back in"
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I looked around and found:
I 'googled' TALLogoutSavesSate and found one hit which had a promising reply:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15734019#15734019
But as indicated by the reply below that one, it doesn't work. I have tried a few variations like clearing the plist file described, using and not using 'sudo' and unchecking the box after using the defaults command, but that setting keeps getting set back to 1 automatically.
Solution Found!
After digging around for a while, I found a way of dealing with this annoying feature.
On terminal, you need to run the following command:
This, despite the fact that the checkbox will still be marked, will kill every app when you turn off your Mac.
The only catch is that you have to run the command each time that you're going to either reboot or shut down since the system automatically changes the value to "1" again.
To sort this out, I created an AppleScript-based app that with just clicking its icon, it will run the command and shut your mac down for you.
You can download it here for free.
Let me know if it works for you!
Victor Andreoni
source: GizmoBlurb
After digging around for a while, I found a way of dealing with this annoying feature.
On terminal, you need to run the following command:
Code:
defaults write com.apple.loginwindow TALLogoutSavesState 0This, despite the fact that the checkbox will still be marked, will kill every app when you turn off your Mac.
The only catch is that you have to run the command each time that you're going to either reboot or shut down since the system automatically changes the value to "1" again.
To sort this out, I created an AppleScript-based app that with just clicking its icon, it will run the command and shut your mac down for you.
You can download it here for free.
Let me know if it works for you!
Victor Andreoni
source: GizmoBlurb
My only major problems with Lion is, I'll have a couple of desktop windows (can be done using mission control) on my computer so i can switch back and forth and not have the apps all cluttered onto one desktop window, yet, when I restart the computer, they'll all disappear except for the main window. My other problem is the computer will freeze up everyone in a while (I can move the mouse, but not click on anything), and then all of a sudden a minute later go back to working normally.
Hey, cool stuff - thanx alot, been very helpful for me!
I'd appreciate even more greatly if you'd published the same one, but for clean restart (with an appropriate icon)
Vista was not bad because of annoying features, it was a #*%} sandwich that crashed constantly. Apple's vista seems to be doing well in most people's eyes.
Maybe if you go to
/Library/Preferences/
and edit "com.apple.loginwindow.plist" manually it might stay permanent. I dont have Lion installed to test.
Back to SL too
I also got back to SL after 1 day of crazy settings on Lion.
The good news is that Apple refunded me the price of Lion. I would suggest you ask for your money back, if you do not use Lion.
I also got back to SL after 1 day of crazy settings on Lion.
The good news is that Apple refunded me the price of Lion. I would suggest you ask for your money back, if you do not use Lion.
Because Lion has a lot of security enhancements that you don't get with Snow Leopard. That alone is enough to justify it for me.
The Defaults settings are those used by default, so in theory there shouldn't be anything else with more "hierarchy" than them. Still, I'm going to check that just in case.
Thanx, man, really appreciate your helpful approach here!
Just one more thing.... Could you explain how can I change the icons of your apps with someones that better fit my color layout? I saw the icon files in the contents of the apps, so can I just replace those with mine (with appropriate file format, size and name) or do I need to perform some extra actions above that to make it work?
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CleanReboot and CleanShutDown have been updated to 2.0.
This new version is /MUCH/ cleaner than the previous one, since instead of modifying the defaults it makes Finder act like if the user unchecked the save state checkbox and then clicked the Shut Down or Restart button.
CleanShutDown 2.0
CleanReboot 2.0
Yes, you just need the icon you want and place it in the resources folder inside the application.
To create de .icns file, use this website iConverticons
This new version is /MUCH/ cleaner than the previous one, since instead of modifying the defaults it makes Finder act like if the user unchecked the save state checkbox and then clicked the Shut Down or Restart button.
CleanShutDown 2.0
CleanReboot 2.0
Thanx, man, really appreciate your helpful approach here!
Just one more thing.... Could you explain how can I change the icons of your apps with someones that better fit my color layout? I saw the icon files in the contents of the apps, so can I just replace those with mine (with appropriate file format, size and name) or do I need to perform some extra actions above that to make it work?
Yes, you just need the icon you want and place it in the resources folder inside the application.
To create de .icns file, use this website iConverticons
There are certainly some quirks in Lion yet I find the new OS extremely rewarding and fast - I also never have installed any version of Apples OS in its initial RTM state. This is the first one and fortunately without bugs whatsoever for me.
The others have really consider the rule of NOT upgrading to Apples new OSes until AT THE VERY LEAST x.7.4 update.
The others have really consider the rule of NOT upgrading to Apples new OSes until AT THE VERY LEAST x.7.4 update.
Hi,
Just curious as to how you did this? Did you go into the Apple Store?
I lasted three and a half days with Lion before I wiped it and went back to Snow Leopard, but short of going into a Store and letting them examine my Macbook, I'm not sure how I can 'prove' that I'm not using Lion.
And also, surely they'll say 'You bought it - it's not our fault you don't like it!'
Bumping this, but did anyone figure out a more permanent solution than using this (no offence!)? What about editing the plist file.
I find that most of the time the "restore programs upon restart" thing doesn't really work well at all. I don't know if apps need time to update or what, but following a reboot things are usually way broken and I have to re-reboot with it unchecked again. Stuff like Moom launches twice, Dropbox doesn't seem to launch at all, and as others said startup time increases dramatically.
I appreciate what they were trying to do, but it's still far from functional.
Is it that difficult?
What about Shift + Option + Command + Q to logout?
This kills all process and logs out cleanly. No need for 3rd party app, or terminal command line.
Just logout this way from the future.
It's how I logged out in Snow Leopard anyways... works for Lion also.
Try it, let me know if it works for you. When you log back on it should be a clean start up.
What about Shift + Option + Command + Q to logout?
This kills all process and logs out cleanly. No need for 3rd party app, or terminal command line.
Just logout this way from the future.
It's how I logged out in Snow Leopard anyways... works for Lion also.
Try it, let me know if it works for you. When you log back on it should be a clean start up.
I really hope they come out with a fix for this soon. For years I've shut my mac down with the keyboard shortcut ctrl + alt + apple + eject. The problem is, this skips the confirmation window so I don't even see the "reopen windows when logging back in" option! I was running Lion for weeks before I realized that this even IS a option! Super effing annoying...