Disabling Siri while keeping dictation

iRock1

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Is it possible to use Voice Over instead of Siri, while keeping the dictation feature on the keyboard? I ask because as soon as I disabled Siri the mic button went away.
 

Altis

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Meh. Thanks anyway.

What I find absurd is the impossibility of using Dictation without Siri. Clearly they are not the same thing.
Being able to keep Siri enabled while getting rid of the mic button would be useful, too, for some people.

I'm guessing that it uses the same speech to text process.
 

iamMacPerson

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Why would you want to disable Siri and bring back Voice Control? I know Siri can be little wacky sometimes, but the recognition is leaps and bounds better then Voice Control. Plus, dictation backends to the Siri server (TMK) and whenever you use dictation and correct its mistakes, Siri learns and vice-versa.
 

iRock1

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Disabling Siri while keeping dictation

Why would you want to disable Siri and bring back Voice Control? I know Siri can be little wacky sometimes, but the recognition is leaps and bounds better then Voice Control. Plus, dictation backends to the Siri server (TMK) and whenever you use dictation and correct its mistakes, Siri learns and vice-versa.

Because for some odd reason Siri doesn't work over 3G. That's why.
 

iRock1

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That's strange, it should work fine on 3G as plenty of people use it that way on their 4Ss.

Yes, it should, but it doesn't. After several tests and some research, the only conclusion is that the problem is on the telecom's side.

But it is what is, right.
 

iamMacPerson

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Yes, it should, but it doesn't. After several tests and some research, the only conclusion is that the problem is on the telecom's side.

But it is what is, right.
That honestly makes no sense why Voice Control would work over your providers network but not Siri. Who's your provider and what country are you in if you don't mind me asking?
 

Intell

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That honestly makes no sense why Voice Control would work over your providers network but not Siri. Who's your provider and what country are you in if you don't mind me asking?
Voice Control doesn't use the internet to analyze a user's voice. Everything is done solely on the device. That's why 4G iPod Touch users can use it when not connected to WiFi.
 

Planins

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Voice Control doesn't use the internet to analyze a user's voice. Everything is done solely on the device. That's why 4G iPod Touch users can use it when not connected to WiFi.
And this is exactly why dictation wouldn't be able to work without internet too - it connects every time when you dictate to it, sends your voice to the server and sends back the text. That's why it doesn't work like Voice Control so it's not available when it is turned on.