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Derude

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I'm so disappointed about the iPad 10.5 I was truly hopping that this was going to be the game changer with 9.7 form factor and no home button with a bezelless display. But the leaked cases showing the increased size of the iPad itself clearly shows that none of that will be happening.

Apples minimal updates to there devices need to stop, every new IOS device has the same result. Make the processor a little faster and make it weigh slightly less and the battery last a little longer.

In my opinion Apple is better off moving there yearly device upgrade to every 3-4 years and offer big changes rather then little ones.

Even tho my excitement for the iPad 10.5 was so high and now it's next to nothing I will be getting it regardless since I would like a bigger iPad compared to my mini, BUT it's safe to say this will be my iPad I will keep for the next 4-5 years because everything in between that just isn't worth it.

Common Apple you wonder why your sales in tablets has took such a hit, wake up. Does anyone agree with me ?
 
No need, it's a prediction. And I know it's right after WWDC hit me up to tell me I was right.
 
B/c if history has shown us anything, it's that case manufacturers always get it right. Always.

Nope, it's because the history of the minimal upgrades in apples iOS devices show it... please tell me what has Apple done that was so innovative ? The only thing I can think of was the Apple Pen that's it
 
Nope, it's because the history of the minimal upgrades in apples iOS devices show it... please tell me what has Apple done that was so innovative ? The only thing I can think of was the Apple Pen that's it

What do you class as innovation? Removing a few bezels and putting the fingerprint scanner on the back of the device as a result? Or in-house CPUs with double the performance of the nearest competitor?
 
I class something innovative as something that changes the product completely, a game changer in my opinion Retina display was a game changer.. Apple pen was a game changer... a home button in the back of the device isn't a game changer.. finding tec that can read your finger print in the display is 100% a game changer.. because in doing that your getting rid of a home button and add screen size.

Does this make more sense, prob not something tells me no matter what you won't agree with what I have to say.
 
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I class something innovative as something that changes the product completely, a game changer in my opinion Retina display was a game changer.. Apple pen was a game changer... a home button in the back of the device isn't a game changer.. finding tec that can read your finger print in the display is 100% a game changer.. because in doing that your getting rid of a home button and add screen size.

Does this make more sense, prob not something tells me no matter what you won't agree with what I have to say.

Well yeah I agree that a fingerprint reader in the display would be incredibly innovative. It's very obvious that's the route Apple are going.

However it's very difficult to do, so it's not from lack of trying (hence Samsung's clumsy workaround). When the tech is ready in a reliable fashion, Apple will release it. You really think they're deliberately holding off from releasing the tech if they've already mastered it?
 
Nope, it's because the history of the minimal upgrades in apples iOS devices show it... please tell me what has Apple done that was so innovative ? The only thing I can think of was the Apple Pen that's it
LOL. Keep dodging and moving that target. I get that you're disappointed and have a bone to pick, but good grief....

What has Apple done in the tablet market to be innovative? How about BEING the tablet market?
 
I agree, they destroy there competition and no one does it better, I dunno man maybe what I'm trying to say is stop yearly releases with very little upgrades and wait till there's something significant. People say how iPad sales struggle it's because when a new one is released people doing find the need to upgrade.
 
I agree, they destroy there competition and no one does it better, I dunno man maybe what I'm trying to say is stop yearly releases with very little upgrades and wait till there's something significant. People say how iPad sales struggle it's because when a new one is released people doing find the need to upgrade.

Nothing wrong with annual updates with more powerful hardware. Remember that new iOS iterations are also released annually so more powerful hardware can drive new software features too.

Personally I don't see the problem. More value/longevity if you buy a newer more powerful one at the same price as the older one. That'd be much better than simply... not updating and then only releasing when there's something 'truly' better.

I imagine you'd also be complaining if Apple didn't update their iPads for a few years and you'd be blaming falling tablet sales on that instead. What you want is eventually going to be released, so don't fret; when the tech's ready, it'll be yours.
 
Not that it bothers me that we've had the same iPad design coming up on 5 years now (chamfered edges + round back that was introduced with the iPod touch and iPad mini in 2012), but I'm kind of surprised they haven't moved on from it at all. Not even something drastic, but I thought after the iPhone 6 launch that they would move to more rounded edges (I myself don't find chamfered edge very comfortable to hold for long periods of time).

And the other angle (just in terms of design), when the iPhone went into a 3rd cycle with nearly identical design (6, 6s, 7), people seemed to lose their minds over it. Tech media, forum members, etc. Always bantering and complaining about how apple isn't innovating or that the 7 looks the same as the 6. I never understood why there really never is much complaining about iMacs, MacBooks or iPads keeping the same design for 3-5 years or more, but when the iPhone does everyone gets upset about it.
 
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Here's the tablet mobile traffic info. I.e. Which tablets are folks actually using.

GS Tablet Usage.jpeg

65% - Apple
18% - Samsung
Scraps - Everyone else

http://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/tablet/worldwide (javascript required)
 
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I'm so disappointed about the iPad 10.5 I was truly hopping that this was going to be the game changer with 9.7 form factor and no home button with a bezelless display. But the leaked cases showing the increased size of the iPad itself clearly shows that none of that will be happening.

Apples minimal updates to there devices need to stop, every new IOS device has the same result. Make the processor a little faster and make it weigh slightly less and the battery last a little longer.

In my opinion Apple is better off moving there yearly device upgrade to every 3-4 years and offer big changes rather then little ones.

Even tho my excitement for the iPad 10.5 was so high and now it's next to nothing I will be getting it regardless since I would like a bigger iPad compared to my mini, BUT it's safe to say this will be my iPad I will keep for the next 4-5 years because everything in between that just isn't worth it.

Common Apple you wonder why your sales in tablets has took such a hit, wake up. Does anyone agree with me ?
Apple isn't doing what they do in order to please you, they do it to make money. Tech moves fast. If Apple shifted their yearly device upgrades to once every 3 - 4 years, they would lose ground very quickly as other manufacturers come out with new items at a quicker pace. Coming out with a new device only every 3 - 4 years gives the public 3 - 4 years to forget about Apple products. We would also have those who would complain that Apple is stagnating. You can't please all of the people all of the time.
 
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