This lol. The 5 is a BIG improvement over the 4s but the 4s is still a good phone though. To be honest, i have no issues with the 5 as its plenty fast but I'll be getting a 5s only because I can.
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Disappointed: iphone 5c or 5s or none
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This lol. The 5 is a BIG improvement over the 4s but the 4s is still a good phone though. To be honest, i have no issues with the 5 as its plenty fast but I'll be getting a 5s only because I can.
I mean ios7 has facetime audio, so while not exactly the same its helpful if you have lots of iphone friends.
Sounds like OP was expecting too much from an S release. We all knew the form factor wasn't going to change that drastically. That's something we'll probably see in the iPhone 6 next year. I'm currently using an iPhone 4 and frankly, I'm impressed with what's going on under the hood of the iPhone 5s. It's going to blazing fast, have an awesome camera and a finger print sensor. Plus because I have a 4, it's going to be a major form factor upgrade for me too! Can't wait to get my hands on one!
Joke?
Sure, a 64 bit processor, super improved camera, and biometric scanner (even if you personally don't use it) is joke. It's only the biggest "s" upgrade they've put out. What a joke lol
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lol @ This.
Slacktivism is the reason we have hundreds of threads on here like WTF D00d!?!?! I can't use airdrop on my 4 year old phone?! ***** Apple...should I buy an android???... haha
Sure, a 64 bit processor, super improved camera, and biometric scanner (even if you personally don't use it) is joke. It's only the biggest "s" upgrade they've put out. What a joke lol
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lol @ This.
Slacktivism is the reason we have hundreds of threads on here like WTF D00d!?!?! I can't use airdrop on my 4 year old phone?! ***** Apple...should I buy an android???... haha
Thats just giving money away to your carriers though. You should upgrade at least every two years. You pay the carriers extra money on your monthly bill to cover subsidies so you should at least get your moneys worth.
Daftest thing I've read this week.
The S cycle has brought many of the biggest and most interesting changes to the way the iPhone works - massive processor jumps (to dual core on the 4S, 64 bit on the 5S), major camera improvements (autofocus, backlit sensors, dedicated image processing with better white balance and response times etc, all introduced on S iPhones), game changing features like Siri and now Touch ID, other internal refinements like the dual switching antenna on the 4S that finally ended years of complaints about iPhone reception issues and made the iPhone a good actual phone...
All of this and more is routinely swept under the carpet by people like you who can't see beyond the external packaging and the fact that it looks "just the same as last years" - pathetic.
That is like going from an S upgrade to a non S upgrade as the C is identical to the iPhone 5 minus the body?
I have a 4S and trust me you want to upgrade if you can find a way to get the money together or you are a due an upgrade. Yes the 4S is still superior to any Android phone but Apple has advanced performance and technology so much that you really are falling behind the ecosystem if you don't upgrade.
I don't see how staying on a smaller screen is stopping innovation? Most of the advancement is made in the screen technology to give you a clearer picture, in the components inside the phone or in the operating system. I personally love the size of the 4S and would like the option to stay at that size but have upgraded internals. If I had the option of the 5S but with the screen size of 4S, I'd be buying it. I didn't get the 5 because I don't want a phone that size. I know eventually I will have to give in when I want better features but for now, I am resisting as long as I can and by saying everyone still on iPhone 4/4S is holding back development is just incorrect. If we went by that ruling, we wouldn't have better chips, fingerprint scanning or ios7.
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I second this, I am pleased to be on the S upgrade cycle, you get what was originally intended but a years worth of extra work that makes it better.
If you want a bigger screen than the 5s offers, your choice is simple: get an Android phone or wait for Apple. Battery life on the iPhone 5s is claimed to be equal to or slightly better than on the 5, despite improved performance. In order to further improve battery life with current technology Apple would have to increase the phone's size/weight. Would I prefer much longer life? Sure, but nobody's been able to do that yet.
(BTW, I disagree with your characterization of the 5c a "horrible upgrade." It's not really meant to be an upgrade at all - it's a somewhat less expensive way for people to get an iPhone.)
I do believe you won the thread.
I get aggravated by the S cycle complaints.
S cycle is the refined version of the style of phone that came out the previous year. It is what Apple does. I enjoy it.
A surprise, to me, would be Apple making a radical body style change on an S year.
I upgrade yearly. There are always nice changes from one year to the next.
If I upgraded every two years, I'd probably go for the S cycle because all the kinks have been worked out.
True, but they are not fully integrated with my number, at least I'm not aware of any app that provides voice and text over WiFi using my existing T-Mobile number.
i say let's not encourage a half-assed attempt to go with a larger screen by only going taller.
i have a 4S that i'm perfectly content with except that it's only 16gig and i can not fit all my music collection on it. my old 4 was 32gig and perfect, but now long in the tooth.
i bought a new 4S when the 5 came out because i felt (and still do) that the tall screen update is a joke and a sad attempt by apple to join the '4in club' and i do not like the metal 5 in any way shape or form.
so, this year i'm getting a 5C to bump myself up to 32gigs and get a nice color phone to boot. the taller-only screen is more of a detraction than anything else, but it will have to do. and i'll happily upgrade to the iPhone 6 if apple decides to finally add a big boy screen.
Every new phone has a better processor than the last one. Every new phone has refinements over the last one. The difference is one of incremental vs. fundamental.
It's not like they would fix an antenna in 's' models only. It was a problem in model X so they fixed it in model Y. What they learn from model Y will carry over into model Z.
And Siri is a bad example. Siri wasn't available on the iPhone 4 for marketing reasons, so it's not like it was such a fundamental innovation that was tied to the 's' cycle because of technical innovation.
I missed a few out you know - ability to record video? Came with an S model. Stabilised video? Introduced by an S. Multitasking - introduced with the 4 but simultaneously a big advantage of the 3GS over the 3G at the time.
The processor in the 4 was a minor speed bump over the 3GS, nothing like the jump to dual core with the 4S. Likewise 4S to 5 was one dual core to slightly faster dual core, compared to the jump to 64bit with a motion coprocessor in the 5S. The S models represent significant architecture changes, not just minor progress.
Just what is it that you think has been so fundamental and revolutionary about the non S upgrades? High res screen on the 4, taller screen on the 5, everything else is cosmetic no? Ok the 5 also introduced LTE, but only in a very limited way outside the US it has to be said - internationally it's the 5S and 5C which will be rolling that out properly to the majority of iPhone users.
Of course, but look at the jump from 4s to 5. We got:
Bigger screen
Lighter
Thinner
Huge jump in front cam (1.2MP vs. 0.3MP)
Double the RAM
Huge jump in CPU performance
Much better image stabilization
Photos while shooting video
Better antenna architecture
LTE
And a host of other software capabilities, some of which are 5 specific.
It is not like the generational jumps are limp beyond just the form factor.
Look at it this way. If you are on a 2 year buying cycle you are always a year behind on innovation no matter which cycle you are on. The question is do you want to be a year behind on form factor as well?
Please Apple...dont increase the size of the iPhone ever. It.Is.Perfect.
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64bit as well.
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64bit as well.
I'll give you those, but bear in mind the "lighter" part was due to the switch to more dent prone and bendable aluminium instead of harder wearing (and more expensive) steel - no great technological breakthrough.
All incremental - again, nothing revolutionary, no great innovation, no additional hardware other than LTE, just minor enhancements to what was already there. I had a 4S and now have a 5, I haven't noticed "much better image stabilisation" and would actively refute "better antenna" - the only difference there is that the 5's wifi is very notably weaker and glitchier (on all three versions I've tried) than my old 4S.
The S models tend to be ahead of the curve in terms of innovation, and they tend to have less hardware quirks as well, having benefited from the previous model's road testing of the same chassis. Unless you really are entirely driven by having what *looks* like the latest thing, I can't think of a reason not to stick with the S cycle, and I kind of wish I had.
It's a phone. Stop expecting revolutionary. You're going to live your life forever disappointed.
So define innovation that u find the lack of? Do u honestly expect every single phone by apple to have innovation? When did the last major innovation in cellphones happen?
In the current scenario whatever it will be will be evolution. You cant expect companies to "innovate" every single time they release a phone. Atleast when apple releases something they tend to do it right and they seem to succeed quite often.
I do agree with you about sticking to the S cycle if you are on a contract. I just prefer off contract phones and selling them off 2-3 weeks before the new iPhone is releasing .