Disappointed Siri is unavailable for iPhone 4

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by EvilEvil, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. EvilEvil macrumors 6502a


    Jan 8, 2007
    New York City
    The tech is clearly there but they decide to keep it out to entice iPhone owners to upgrade. That's how Apple ropes you in with incremental updates and hype.
  2. mms13 macrumors 6502

    Jun 29, 2010
    Baltimore, MD
    You might be right, but then again you might not be. Siri seems like something that COULD be really intensive on the CPU and the A4 chip might struggle with it. I really don't know though.
  3. Intell macrumors P6


    Jan 24, 2010
    Are you trying to say this is a new tacit for Apple and iDevices? The iPhone 2G could have had MMS and tethering, the 3G video recording and AirPlay, the 3Gs 720p recording and FaceTime, the 4 1080p and Siri. Nothing new.
  4. Small White Car macrumors G4

    Small White Car

    Aug 29, 2006
    Washington DC

    Which parts of the A4 chip are the same as the A5 chip and how does that relate to how Siri uses it?

    I'm glad that's clear for you, because I really have no idea how all that works.
  5. waterskier2007 macrumors 68000


    Jun 19, 2007
    Novi, MI
    most i agree with besides the 3GS facetime. The appeal with facetime is the front-facing camera
  6. djpuma macrumors regular

    Jul 13, 2010
    I used to be on that hype about apple leaving stuff out so you will upgrade. like no video recording on the 3g, but 3gs could.
    It's probably there, but Apple won't put in software on a device that can't handle it to their expectations.
    I had a jailbroken 3g and video recording was subpar.
    I think they left it out for a reason, but maybe when the dev teams jailbreak ios5 someone will do a side by side comparison with SIRI.
  7. Jemi9OD macrumors regular


    Apr 28, 2010
    Durham, NC
    Agreed with others here. Just because the iPhone 4 is likely technically capable of running Siri, that does not necessarily mean that the user experience will be the same. Apple is very attentive to the user experience on their products.
  8. andross77 macrumors 6502

    Oct 11, 2011
    there is NO OTHER tech company that releases incremental upgrades in hopes of selling a product to a customer and making $$$$$!!!!

    Apple is the ONLY company that does this!!

  9. jwingfie macrumors 6502a


    Dec 30, 2008
    Athens, GA
    And making money is a bad thing?!?
  10. adztaylor, Oct 12, 2011
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2011

    adztaylor macrumors 68000

    Aug 20, 2009
    Preston, UK
    I think it is a mixture of it probably not running as well on the iPhone 4, plus Apple wants a standout feature for the iPhone 4S.
  11. NATO macrumors 68000


    Feb 14, 2005
    Northern Ireland
    There could be a technical reason for Siri only being made available on the iPhone 4S but it's most likely just Apple being Apple, ie. Siri is the unique selling point of the iPhone 4S so it doesn't make business sense to make it available on other models as it would hinder sales.
  12. Mackbook702 macrumors member

    Jun 21, 2011
    Yup, the A5 is definitely in the iPhone 4.
  13. aneftp macrumors 601

    Jul 28, 2007
    Well let's see.

    Samsung releases Samsung Vibrant Galaxy S for t-mobile usa last July 2010. They took out the FFC that was supposed to be on the phone.

    In Feb 2011. Samsung released the same exact phone and called it the Galaxy S 4G (this time with the FFC that they purposely left out (the original one had a slot for the plus added hspa plus). that's all.

    So Samsung was even worse than Apple with it's re-release of the same phone.
  14. EvilEvil thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Jan 8, 2007
    New York City
    Uh the A5 is just an updated processor. Siri is all software.
  15. ripper998 macrumors regular

    Jun 19, 2010
    Think he was being sarcastic
  16. born4sky macrumors 6502a


    Mar 14, 2008
    They would make it available for iPhone 3gs, Iphone 4... but than you would be the first one to call apple and cry ... why is your siri works so slow..

    it's not only spec that matter... it's the whole experience
  17. ripper998 macrumors regular

    Jun 19, 2010
    uh, siri has to use the A5 to process what you say and then send the request to the server. You think your sending a wav file of what you said over the net to the siri servers? The iphone 4 struggled plenty with some of the games and other apps out there, what makes you think siri would be a smooth experience?
  18. theperipheral macrumors 6502

    Jan 20, 2008
    I don't know if you guys have seen the videos, but on the 4S, sometimes it takes a second or 2 to register what was said and to give an answer, maybe even 3 seconds sometimes.

    The 4S seems to do everything at least 1.5x as fast as the 4, so imagine if you were on the 4, and it took 4, 5, or 6 seconds to get an answer to something using Siri. It'd get old QUICK. I wouldn't sit there and wait for it.
  19. 2010RS macrumors 6502

    Jun 26, 2009
    Good point.

    Now can someone please help me figure out why I can't get Adobe Creative Suite 5 to run on my Windows 3.1 machine?
  20. kolax macrumors G3

    Mar 20, 2007
    I think this is a marketing thing just to give the iPhone 4S a bonus selling point.

    Siri may very well struggle on the iPhone 4, but we'll find out once and for all once it finally gets hacked onto an iPhone 4.
  21. fibrizo macrumors 6502


    Jan 23, 2009
    Actually no. The worst one is Nintendo...

    Remember... Nintendo DS, then DS lite, then DSi, then DSi XL... then 3DS etc.. rinse and repeat...
    Let's not forget... Gameboy, Gameboy pocket, Gameboy light, Gameboy color, Gameboy micro...

    All with special limited edition colors with a specific game lol....
  22. eastercat macrumors 68040


    Mar 3, 2008
    The dev team has said they'd have to pirate, which they obviously won't do. Unless they figure out a workaround, iPhone 4 may never see it.
  23. Saberj macrumors regular

    Jul 15, 2010
    It won't be on the iPad 2 either. And that's also running with an A5 chip.
  24. bender999 macrumors newbie


    Jan 17, 2010

    Seriously people, you don't recognize sarcasm?? He even put in several sarcasm smileys to make sure you got it!!

    jeez ... he answers the OP, makes a good point, and adds humor all at the same time and it's over half your heads :D
  25. mouthster macrumors regular

    Apr 22, 2005
    Technically Siri is still beta, Apple's own words. Siri relies on Apple's cloud servers to process your voice and send back the results. What better way to roll out Siri then limit it to a brand new device? The impact of millions of users installing iOS5 on existing devices and using Siri all at once could tax the service to the point of being unusable and give it a bad name.

    I wouldn't rule out seeing Siri on other devices later on.

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