Disappointing CoD4 performance

[capriseyhaze]

Like everybodys saying fu@$ games get a 360 or something for that. A
But if you "really" need to game on a mac put windoze on it.

 

[Warranty Voider]

nothing is wrong with your lappy, its the terrible OSX version, Aspyr is one of the worst developers on the face of the planet. I was playing crysis warhead today and getting 40fps at medium and that game is way more intense than COD4.

Same. I get around 37 FPS.

Like everybodys saying fu@$ games get a 360 or something for that. A
But if you "really" need to game on a mac put windoze on it.

I've never understood the reasoning behind getting a stand alone game console. I computer can do much more, has much better graphics, and is always easy to update.

 

[mikes70mustang]

Same. I get around 37 FPS.



I've never understood the reasoning behind getting a stand alone game console. I computer can do much more, has much better graphics, and is always easy to update.

seriously? "what would much better graphics" be? not being able to play a game on all high settings? Please. Computers arnt made for some one to game on all day, more like a everyonce and a while type thing. And the point of a stand alone is, better, faster, and wayyyyyyyyy cheaper. But by all means, if you like to blow ur cash on a better computer every two years so you can play a fantasy game then go ahead.

 

[chrono1081]

I havent played the OSX version but the windows version runs just fine on the MBP in my sig.

 

[m1stake]

It is a fair trade, just because most software is written for windows doesnt make it good. Like I said, buying a computer more mostly gaming is stupid. Thats why there are Xbox, PS3, and what ever else. Computers arnt for playing some freaking fantasy game. But yah, im sure im stupid for thinking that dropping $400-500 for a ps3 and getting HD quality games that you can also play on the internet is stupid. Makes more sense to buy a $3000+ computer that will be too slow to run new games in 1 1/2 years 🙄

Windows is a perfectly good OS. Anyone who "can't stand Windows" or something similar is a testament to Apple's marketing department.

As far as getting a console in lieu of a computer to play games with, consider this: you can do anything a computer can do on a computer. Sounds obvious, but you can't do much with a console. Also, console games don't look as nice as their PC counterparts. In order to run on the older hardware that consoles use, textures are simplified or cut, framerates drop, etc. If you think a $3,000 computer will be too slow to run new games in a year and a half, you are sadly mistaken. I built a computer in May 2007 using half that amount of money and it still tears through new games. It's certainly not slow.

If you can only have one platform to play games on, a computer is your best bet.

 

[mikes70mustang]

Windows is a perfectly good OS. Anyone who "can't stand Windows" or something similar is a testament to Apple's marketing department.

As far as getting a console in lieu of a computer to play games with, consider this: you can do anything a computer can do on a computer. Sounds obvious, but you can't do much with a console. Also, console games don't look as nice as their PC counterparts. In order to run on the older hardware that consoles use, textures are simplified or cut, framerates drop, etc. If you think a $3,000 computer will be too slow to run new games in a year and a half, you are sadly mistaken. I built a computer in May 2007 using half that amount of money and it still tears through new games. It's certainly not slow.

If you can only have one platform to play games on, a computer is your best bet.

yes so, apparently the one u built is not a mac, and is not your primary computer? And even if you did build one for $1500 thats still triple or more than a console. And certainly not slow also prob mean certainly not fast either?

 

[lukin]

Curious...

If I booted into Windows using bootcamp would I be able to run games just as they would on any other PC? Or is there still some sort of limitation?

Wasn't there something with the fans not working in bootcamp Windows so as the laptop became hotter while playing games it wasn't cooled properly?

Sorry for the 'newb' question.

Thanks!

 

[w00t951]

You really shouldn't be playing games on Mac OSX, buecause it is not really meant to run programs that were translated from the original Direct X to the OpenGL that runs on Mac OSX. And for the opinons about the console systems, they are terrible. The only place where the hardware really surpasses computers is the CPU, and most games do not really need a huge amount of processing power, just a lot of graphical power. There is a reason why games like Crysis and other PC only games are only for PC, and that is because the console platforms are not powerful enough to run the games. For instance, a regular anallog TV connection looks very high resolution, but that is only because you are a respectable distance from the screen. The image quality is distorted to look better. However, the PC games are meant to be run on a screen where people are sitting about 4 inches from the screen. Therefore, if you try to run a console at 1920X1200 resolution and the same game at 1920X1200 on a gaming PC, then the performance difference is huge! So, what I am saying, that the computer is actually more powerful then the console is. And the converted version of COD4 is actually a slower game because the original version was in DirectX. And yes, I run Windows on Boot Camp, and the Windows system rating is 6.7. Overclocked. Runs games great.

 

[mikes70mustang]

Windows is a perfectly good OS. Anyone who "can't stand Windows" or something similar is a testament to Apple's marketing department.

I guess perfectly good mean chalk full of bugs. Apples marketing department? I like my mac b/c its fast and has maybe 1/100th the problems that my pc had. If windows didnt require constant patching virus programs and lock up my pc 3 times a day id gladly go back. I honestly think most mac stuff is overpriced and id much rather get a $600 dell. But i hate how it all works and how slow it is. Im not a fanboy, ive just used windows basically since it came out and I just despise it. O and you guys win, games are much better on little laptop screens and 20somthing in. monitors. Your right its soooo terrible being able to sit away from a TV with a wireless controller sitting on a couch. So sue me for thinking that its a complete waste of money doing gaming on computers. Rant complete, time for another exam.

 

[m1stake]

yes so, apparently the one u built is not a mac, and is not your primary computer? And even if you did build one for $1500 thats still triple or more than a console. And certainly not slow also prob mean certainly not fast either?

I don't have a "primary" computer, I use them about equally. I guess if you wanted to get technical the PC sees more use because the G4 is fairly sluggish when doing more than one task. Remember that for triple the price of a console, I also got much more than triple the functionality. My "old" build is still extremely fast. It can't beat an i7 build of course, but it's still got three or four years of life in it. That would put it's lifespan in the same range as a console, which turn over every 5 or 6 years.

If I booted into Windows using bootcamp would I be able to run games just as they would on any other PC? Or is there still some sort of limitation?

Wasn't there something with the fans not working in bootcamp Windows so as the laptop became hotter while playing games it wasn't cooled properly

When you run Windows, you're running Windows! You can load any and all Windows programs and they will behave just like the real thing, because it is the real thing. No emulation or virtualization here!

I guess perfectly good mean chalk full of bugs. Apples marketing department? I like my mac b/c its fast and has maybe 1/100th the problems that my pc had. If windows didnt require constant patching virus programs and lock up my pc 3 times a day id gladly go back.

The error is between the computer and the chair, if you know what I mean. 😉

O and you guys win, games are much better on little laptop screens and 20somthing in. monitors. Your right its soooo terrible being able to sit away from a TV with a wireless controller sitting on a couch. So sue me for thinking that its a complete waste of money doing gaming on computers. Rant complete, time for another exam.

Games are more detailed on high end computers. You lose that detail on consoles because they use older hardware. For example, the PS3 uses a variation of the 6800 Ultra, which was a heavy hitter in 2004.

Anyway, I've already said this stuff, and you're obviously not inclined to listen. Don't get so worked up.

 

[michael.lauden]

Very nice. What fps do you get when you play online? I get around 70-100 on ffa3 which was a huge leap from my old Powermac, at about 15-25fps ahaha. I was just wondering what the difference between this Macbook and the new Unibody Macbook is for this particular game.

i couldn't tell you off hand... this weekend i'll message you with the results. and wow 25fps SUCKS ahah.. my MacBook and Mac mini definitely run it very fast with no lagging at all.

 

[mikes70mustang]

Anyway, I've already said this stuff, and you're obviously not inclined to listen. Don't get so worked up.[/QUOTE]

Yep im convinced, ima go spend a few K on a new desktop to play games. O wait, thats right, dont really care. PS2 is good for now. Maybe a desktop might be worth playing a game on. But seems like every day there is a new thread about "my macs graphics suck" i should have rephrased, trying to do all of that on a laptop is a stupid idea. Basically b/c you cant upgrade, new vid and what not. But still, either way, all i see is money swirling down the crapper.

 

[sdsvtdriver]

an xbox is $200

buy one. they have great game performance!

 

[mikes70mustang]

The error is between the computer and the chair, if you know what I mean. 😉

The error is that windows is a hassle. An utter and complete hassle. Ive did everything right when i had a pc. My dads basically a computer expert as well, certified classes and all, and even with his help, and even with windows running 100 percent, i still didnt like it.

 

[crazzyeddie]

Just to clarify;

You are using the 9600M, right? In the Energy Saver settings...

Also, try turning the graphics up. Yes, I said up. Sometimes I notice that turning up the graphics seems to yield better results on newer graphics cards. Maybe its because they are better tuned to the higher resolution textures... who knows. So set it to 1440x900 and then just play with all the settings.

 

[kdum8]

I play COD4 on my MBP at 1024x800 and it plays pretty well. Certainly it is totally playable. I have a MBP, 4GB DDR2 SDRAM, with 512 VRAM and the 8600M GT graphics card.

Not sure how many FPS I am getting though. How does one find that out in game? 😕

 

[Warranty Voider]

seriously? "what would much better graphics" be? not being able to play a game on all high settings? Please. Computers arnt made for some one to game on all day, more like a everyonce and a while type thing. And the point of a stand alone is, better, faster, and wayyyyyyyyy cheaper. But by all means, if you like to blow ur cash on a better computer every two years so you can play a fantasy game then go ahead.

Stand alone game consoles never come close the the graphical capacity that computers can. On most if not all games that are for both the xbox and PC, on the PC, you have the option to increase the graphics (increase resolution, textures, shadows, depth of field, anti-alaising, etc...). BTW, consoles get updated too pretty often. While they don't get updated as often as computers, at least the games don't become paper weights once the next gen console comes out. With a computer, you can always play the game no matter what "gen" it is.

 

[SebZen]

What is it with this forum? How are OS flame wars allowed here? And mike, no offense, but I don't think you're over 13 by the way you type. You also have the mentality of "I'm right and you're wrong. The end"

I gave up on CoD4 on Mac. I would install Windows but again, I don't play games any more so it's not worth it. As a matter of fact I played through CoD4 back on my PC gaming rig (which I sold to get this MBP), I just installed it here to see what kind of performance I'll get and maybe play through again if it can hold my interest. But not worth installing Windows just for one game. Guess only Blizzard makes good Mac games

 

[janat]

Graphics card

Uni MBPs have 2 graphics cards. One is optimal one that is there for energy economy reasons, and another one for intense tasks. You can change the one you use by going to energy preferences, and choosing an options of:Higher performance; Better battery life

 

[mikes70mustang]

What is it with this forum? How are OS flame wars allowed here? And mike, no offense, but I don't think you're over 13 by the way you type. You also have the mentality of "I'm right and you're wrong. The end"

I gave up on CoD4 on Mac. I would install Windows but again, I don't play games any more so it's not worth it. As a matter of fact I played through CoD4 back on my PC gaming rig (which I sold to get this MBP), I just installed it here to see what kind of performance I'll get and maybe play through again if it can hold my interest. But not worth installing Windows just for one game. Guess only Blizzard makes good Mac games

Yah, forgive me for using a computer for things other than games. And dont give up your day job for guessing peoples names online ace. If you dont want worthless convo on a thread.....then dont post this usless crap crying about how a game doesnt work well on your mac. ANd since most of the people on here are teens, i dont feel the need to use college level grammar, nor do i feel like i need to exert that kind of effort arguring with cry baby gamers.

 

[atheros07]

Make sure you've installed the 1.7.1 patch for COD4, which optimizes performance for the new NVIDIA cards. I stupidly never checked for any updates, and I was getting a disappointing 15 FPS average running COD4 in OS X on my UMBP using the NVIDIA 9600 card. I was actually starting to think that my graphics card was defective.

Installed the update... and now I'm getting the expected 50 FPS with most of the settings turned up high: all texture settings set to "High" and 4x anti-aliasing, specular maps turned on, etc.

 

[masse]

I'm quite disappointed with the performance. I have the latest MBP with an upgraded HDD to 7200RPM and 4GB RAM. I am running an uptodate CoD4 with the 9600M and it's barely playable, at bad graphics =/ I have it set to optimal settings, which it automatically sets them to pretty low. No AA and low res. The only thing I can really bump up is the res to 1440x900. Its FPS are pretty low =/ I don't know what else to say

Disappointed, expected the 9600 to perform much better with CoD4

Play in windows, COD4 and 5 both run near max settings at decent resolution. I stick to 1152x864.

 

[elmz]

I agree, if you are going to do any gaming make sure to run them in Windows. I also play CoD4 and I have no issues with my fps. Most games were design to play on Windows so it will run much better in Windows. If you are disappointed, be disappointed in the code not the hardware or OS X.