Discovery! Baseband now downgrades with OS downgrades!

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Amino Man, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. Amino Man macrumors 6502

    Aug 25, 2010
    Here's all I did.

    1. I restored to 4.1 8B117 (not an upgrade)
    2. Looked at my baseband version (it was 02.10.04)
    3. Then I downgraded to 4.0.2 by option-clicking restore (successful, no DFU mode)
    4. Then I looked at my baseband version again (it was back to 01.59.00!!!)

    How crazy is that? As far as I know, iTunes has NEVER done that before in the history of OS updates!

    How is this possible? Does iTunes 10 automatically revert the baseband so you can downgrade to any OS you want?

    Someone else please try this!

    This computer isn't running any mods or host files (whatever that means).

    Thanks for viewing.

    By the way, I'm not trolling. This REALLY happened. I'm back on 4.0.2 and I didn't have to do anything special except option-click restore and clicked on iPhone3,1_4.0.2_8A400_Restore.ipsw

    Please, someone else try this so we know for sure that it works. Please.

    Could this be an iTunes 10 thing?
  2. mackmgg macrumors 65816


    Nov 2, 2007
    Its an iPhone 4 thing, as long as apple is still signing the OS, you can downgrade the baseband. Once they stop signing it (ie, a new one comes out) the baseband is no longer downgradable
  3. Amino Man thread starter macrumors 6502

    Aug 25, 2010
    When do they stop signing it? As long as it's an official firmware, it will downgrade and upgrade?
  4. draz macrumors 6502a

    Jun 20, 2010
    They usually stop signing the previous version a couple weeks after the latest iOS update. So yes as long as Apple is still signing you can downgrade and upgrade as much as you like.
  5. mackmgg macrumors 65816


    Nov 2, 2007
    With 4.0.2, they kept signing 4.0.1 for a week or so. Normally, they stop signing the old firmware within an hour or two of a new version coming out
  6. doboy macrumors 68020

    Jul 6, 2007
    Is this actually an iPhone 4 thing? Baseband never downgraded on my 3GS.
  7. Amino Man thread starter macrumors 6502

    Aug 25, 2010
    Thank you very much for explaining that to me. I appreciate it.
  8. goobot macrumors 603


    Jun 26, 2009
    long island NY
    so you can downgrade your baseband with your shsh blobs from cydia?
  9. MacReloaded macrumors 6502


    Oct 31, 2007
    Apparently not according to MuscleNerd.
  10. djpatrickp macrumors newbie

    Sep 10, 2010
    Did not Work for Me!!

    Tried this several times last night after I heard the news. I cannot downgrade back to 4.0.2 using apple (not saurik) servers. Does anyone know if apple is still signing 4.0.2?
  11. Amino Man thread starter macrumors 6502

    Aug 25, 2010
    I guess they're not signing it anymore. Sorry.
  12. moussekateer macrumors 6502a


    May 12, 2009
    You can only downgrade the baseband on the iPhone 4 in the very limited window where Apple is signing both 4.0.2 and 4.1. The iPhone 4 baseband now has a signature check but, unlike the firmware signature check, it's randomly generated with every restore so there's no way to save them for now.

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