JaquesAss, Thieves like you are why studio's are scared to death to release digital content. thanks a lot.
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Disney: 4 Million iTunes Movies Sold
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Whine more, pirates are and will always be there. Just release your content on a good price and people will buy. Make it to high, or do not offer = pirate. Simple. Imagine myself, over the half year I downloaded 7000 songs and put ID3 tags exactly like iTMS, they are the same if they where bought. So why buy them? That would have cost me 7000 euro's, and I'm 16 years old. No way! If I'm a grown up I'll definatly pay though, much easier and give credit for their work!
no way, piracy would take over.
no way studios are going to allow no drm.
music needs drm, but it hasn't been implemented properly.
Not bad for videos from Apple being a "flop".
I remember these articles that said Apple was making a mistake making their iPod video compatible and selling videos on iTunes:
http://mtdewvirus.com/archives/2005/10/13/video-on-the-ipod-will-flop/
(this guy, ever hear of an iPod being hooked up to a TV set? That's what I did when Apple started selling videos...)
(I searched for more but all the links were dead.
Interesting...)
I remember these articles that said Apple was making a mistake making their iPod video compatible and selling videos on iTunes:
http://mtdewvirus.com/archives/2005/10/13/video-on-the-ipod-will-flop/
(this guy, ever hear of an iPod being hooked up to a TV set? That's what I did when Apple started selling videos...)
(I searched for more but all the links were dead.
Interesting...)A-FREAKING-MEN!!! I like renting the movies, but they are missing out on a lot of money without also giving me the option to buy. And if they even put your rental price towards the price of a purchase or even part, WOW that would do soooooo well!
Get your movies up on iTunes fast Hollywood. The selection is running out. Release the digitals at the same time as DVDs and add a buy option on EVERY movie! Then come out with digital DVDs with menus, extras, etc. all in an iTunes video file
And if they actually offered anything outside of the continental USA market.
I know at least a dozen people who would buy an AppleTV tomorrow and start buying/renting movies from it, but none of the media companies want to make their stuff available.
I guess I live in some kind of digital backwater third-world country .... oh, wait ... I live 20 minutes from the US border in one of the world's largest free-market democracies.
Dude - US gift cards are your friend - full access to everything.
It works perfectly.
You're on a public forum openly stating that you're stealing!
I believe the fine is $100,000 per movie.
And all the FBI has to do is ask Arn for your info.
Some consider ripping DVDs that you own as being legal (technically it's not, but...), but what you're doing is 100% illegal.
And there we have what will probably be the killer app that gets people to buy the aTV: piracy. The new handbrake version should be a nice boost to aTV sales.
You just disproved your own point - you can get songs for 79 to 99 cents each, and yet you still just pirate them. How cheap would songs have to be for you to pay - or would you just pirate them no matter what?
I do agree that lower prices generally bring in more sales, but you're a perfect example that some people will pirate content regardless of price.
They won't go for those of us that OWN the original discs, as long as we don't share the digital file with anyone.
Yea, it's illegal to copy rented or borrowed (from the library) discs...
So do you think Apple doesn't charge a service fee for this which explains how come they made just around $123 Million?
its a conspiracy man!!!!! there are no sales, there is no "store" in itunes how ridiculous is that, how can a program be a store wouldnt it be called istore or ishop or the imall
thats what doesnt make sence, and remember taxes could come into play with these numbers. maybe they are displaying net profit or maybe the skemes to get people to look into it so when they discover the truth they are blown away and totally sold. thats the kinda awesome **** i would pull. none of this wimpy million trillion BS the only things that matter are percents of market share. last year deer killed 4 people in the city of wikitaw, which is half the population. thusely deer are the #1 priority in wikitaw, yet if 1000 people die of deer in shanghai china, pfff doesnt even matter more people died from waking up there than from deer.
Super Duper Reality Check
no self respecting artist charges money for their art. anyone who gets a record deal for their music is doing it for the money, the real musicians chill out on street corners and jam. they put their music and videos online for anyone who wants them taking pleasure in the fact that other people enjoy what they have created.
100,000$ for stolen content is ludicrous from a legal standpoint because the fines outweigh the damages. one could say that someone who steals it then seeds it to others making the record company loose exponental amounts of money, but if it was already seeded by another individual then you could not make such a claim as the content is already "leaked" the damage is pre-existing. CDs and DVDs are the worst form of media storage because they scratch, consumers have every right to protect the content they have bought by making backup disks.
multitudes of inventions have gone un-utilized because of greedy inventors who wanted the entire pie to themselves, where the love at. what ever happend to doing good things for humanity as a whole. so what if someone listens to music they havent bought, that has been happening ever since speakers were invented, are you not allowed to play music around your friends or make your girlfriend a mixtape for her birthday. do clubbs pay royalties to artists when they play their songs. Get real! music industy. people couldnt even buy music untill the past century. christmas carrollers didnt even take tips but your more than happy to charge for a christmas CD.
all you do is burn a disk and slapp a label and then wine as the future comes to roll over the top of you and decide to ruin some young individuals future by charging them thousands and sometimes even millions of dollars, you need to adapt and stop winning that people are listenning to music together and if your goona sue anyone sue the internet. because its the speaker that playing your music.
having said all that, stealing is a horrable thing to do, especially considering most people would let you borrow or even have something, simply because they can see how happy it would make you. the words "wrong" and "bad" are meaningless, just understand what its like to loose something without ever knowing if its lost or stolen from you. stealing hurts allot of people.
anyway
artists shouldn't be greedy little pigs. they should bypass record labels altogether and just give their content for free on itunes and their website.
after all you can get free iphone apps from kind true blue technoenthusiests so why not music.
sorry to throw a kink in yr universal price listing steve, im sure youll straighten things out. just add a 0$ option.
no self respecting artist charges money for their art. anyone who gets a record deal for their music is doing it for the money, the real musicians chill out on street corners and jam. they put their music and videos online for anyone who wants them taking pleasure in the fact that other people enjoy what they have created.
100,000$ for stolen content is ludicrous from a legal standpoint because the fines outweigh the damages. one could say that someone who steals it then seeds it to others making the record company loose exponental amounts of money, but if it was already seeded by another individual then you could not make such a claim as the content is already "leaked" the damage is pre-existing. CDs and DVDs are the worst form of media storage because they scratch, consumers have every right to protect the content they have bought by making backup disks.
multitudes of inventions have gone un-utilized because of greedy inventors who wanted the entire pie to themselves, where the love at. what ever happend to doing good things for humanity as a whole. so what if someone listens to music they havent bought, that has been happening ever since speakers were invented, are you not allowed to play music around your friends or make your girlfriend a mixtape for her birthday. do clubbs pay royalties to artists when they play their songs. Get real! music industy. people couldnt even buy music untill the past century. christmas carrollers didnt even take tips but your more than happy to charge for a christmas CD.
all you do is burn a disk and slapp a label and then wine as the future comes to roll over the top of you and decide to ruin some young individuals future by charging them thousands and sometimes even millions of dollars, you need to adapt and stop winning that people are listenning to music together and if your goona sue anyone sue the internet. because its the speaker that playing your music.
having said all that, stealing is a horrable thing to do, especially considering most people would let you borrow or even have something, simply because they can see how happy it would make you. the words "wrong" and "bad" are meaningless, just understand what its like to loose something without ever knowing if its lost or stolen from you. stealing hurts allot of people.
anyway
artists shouldn't be greedy little pigs. they should bypass record labels altogether and just give their content for free on itunes and their website.
after all you can get free iphone apps from kind true blue technoenthusiests so why not music.
sorry to throw a kink in yr universal price listing steve, im sure youll straighten things out. just add a 0$ option.
And if they actually offered anything outside of the continental USA market.
I guess I live in some kind of digital backwater third-world country .... oh, wait ... I live 20 minutes from the US border in one of the world's largest free-market democracies.
What's that? Mexico
Actually who knows for sure these days.
However the poster I was referring to stated that they're renting movies for NetFlix, ripping them and sending them back.
That is stealing and a very stupid thing to say in a public forum.
And being 16 doesn't it cut it. If they're able to sign up for NetFlix and download Handbrake, then I bet they can read the FBI warning which appears in the beginning of every movie. And also his parent may also be liable.
Hilarious. Clearly you aren't an artist. Clearly you don't know any artists. And clearly you don't know the first thing about art (or music, law, psychology, or sociology). Accusing artists who rightfully expect to get paid for creating things that people enjoy of being greedy, but at the same time admitting you want to pay nothing for that content is an adolescent logical abyss that boggles the mind.
That people think the creative arts should be entirely free is one of the strongest indictments of the attitude of entitlement rampant amongst the underachieving underemployed.
What do you do for living? Do you earn a wage? Why? Why not just offer your time for free. Share the love. Somebody passing you on the street will give you food. Or they'll step on you like true blue technoweenies on the way to the donut shop. Don't worry about it, man.
and not a dime to the composers that write that music for any of their movies or TV shows. I only know this because one of their top selling series I wrote the theme for and friends of mine wrote for other Disney shows.
I hope this changes someday. It's just not right. BTW - No, we are not wealthy or greedy people.
I hope this changes someday. It's just not right. BTW - No, we are not wealthy or greedy people.
Silicon Alley Insider is reporting that Disney CEO Robert Iger announced today at the Digital Hollywood Media Summit that the company has sold 4 million movies on iTunes since the movie store launched in 2006, along with 40-50 million videos.
The site extrapolates that the total revenue from these sales is just under $123 million USD. Disney recently announced a $1 billion digital sales goal for 2008, which includes revenue from advertising online (i.e. ad revenue from online video viewing or from any of its sites), subscriptions to online games, downloads of movies and music, and e-commerce that is not related to its theme parks.
For perspective, Disney had sold 1.3 million movies by February 2007 after 3 months of the iTunes movie store being in operation.
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This seems like bad news? The store sold 1.3 million in the first 3 months, but after being around for 1.2 years or so has only sold 4 million? Seems like sales have been stagnant or even decreasing slowly, as the initial rate clearly didn't hold.
Music does not need DRM. Physical CD sales have no DRM, so any DRM applied on digital downloads is completely useless since people can just take the unprotected CD versions.
Are you kidding me, all I see when searching for movies now is the rental option. Never see the option to buy these days. I don't just want to rent I want to buy. Apple is loosing my money, I am buying DVD's and ripping to my
TV
Huh? When your car breaks down, you pay to have it fixed. When your plumbing gets clogged you pay the plumber. When you're hungry, you pay for food. Why is art any different? When you want to enjoy an artists work, shut up and pay up. Artists need their car to run, their plumbing to work and need to eat too.
Hmmm, I don't know. I sometimes wonder if we would've had digital stores and digital content if piracy wasn't so high. If people weren't used to downloading MP3's and downloading ripped movies, they probably wouldn't be ready for downloading these things legally. And the studio's wouldn't know there was a demand for that stuff.
I even think piracy contributed to the general drop in price for DVDs and CDs. I remember paying 50 bucks for a new release on DVD!
--Erwin