When I was buying my current tv no Dolby vision was the final thing that pushed me to lg over Samsung
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Disney+ Adding Support for HDR10+
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My TV was already switching to HDR when watching Disney+ and it doesn't support Dolby Vision. So my guess is it was doing some sort of translation so I can still watch it in HDR.
I wonder if this will result in improved picture quality for people like me with Samsung TVs that don't do Vision.
I wonder if this will result in improved picture quality for people like me with Samsung TVs that don't do Vision.
Just tried now on 16 pro max on max brightness watched coco Pixar and it’s horrible quality dark and not vibrant, compare that than have low power mode on where the hdr is disabled, don’t tell me that’s why it should look, on my OLED tuned and yes not on vivid, it’s incredible quality. Don’t tell me Disney plus hdr Dolby vision is how it should be. It doesn’t recognise it’s Dolby vision and increase the brightness
HDR+ minimum bandwidth is 25Mbps but as someone who does stream 4K from their home media server you need a minimum of a 1GB connection from your media server to your AppleTV. They can advertise this feature all they want it will not work with any sort of quality until we all can stream at 1GB speeds from that provider. Their bandwidth requirements would be astronomical. So we are effecively paying for quality a little north of 1080 but not much. Definitely not even Blu-Ray quality. I assure you.
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I wish content providers would stop giving in to Samsung's losing battle. Let Samsung owners suffer so that they adopt DV like everyone else.
Oh, you meant the Disney Plus app specifically. Yeah, this seems like a common complaint regarding them and HDR.
Quick fixes: When Disney Plus is so dark you can barely see anything
Hint: Dolby Vision
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But yeah, HDR on YouTube videos are very bright and vivid.
Dolby Vision seems to make things so dark on the screen. HDR 10 seems brighter and easier to see.
Yeah YouTube is fine, it’s the Disney plus app and even the Apple TV app, I don’t get why it doesn’t see its Dolby vision and add the brightnessOh, you meant the Disney Plus app specifically. Yeah, this seems like a common complaint regarding them and HDR.
Quick fixes: When Disney Plus is so dark you can barely see anything
Hint: Dolby Vision
But yeah, HDR on YouTube videos are very bright and vivid.
There is absolutely no way people can tell the difference.
The DV curve and HDR10+ ones are pretty indistinguishable to anyone but the most goldeneyes of goldeneyes, and even then using a pretty rough implementation.
Hell, any major studio is using the grading tools from Dolby to do both versions anyway.
It's important not to confuse implementations and settings with the underlying technology. Experts and purists will tell you to take a good TV, start with Dolby Vision Dark, and tweak from there. If you do those three things, it's beautiful and not oversaturated at all. And as a side note, the Dolby Vision implementation on an older Hisense U6G I bought for my parents a few years back was actually dark and undersaturated, no matter what settings tweaks I made. I literally disabled DV for that reason, and so did lots of other people. Shockingly, even plain SDR was better on that TV.
This. My A95L is stunning. Does it cost a lot more than the S90D QD-OLED from Samsung? Yeah. But if you can afford it, it's amazing. If you watch any SDR content, Sony's image processing and SDR peak brightness make a big difference. The Sony is also significantly better at motion handling, although whether that matters to someone and where they stand on the motion handling holy war is a personal preference.
FWIW, I bought an LG C4 for my parents for Christmas instead of an S90D when the difference was only a few hundred bucks.
I may sound like a Sony hack, but I'm not. The A95L is just hands-down the best. And I may sound anti-Samsung, but I'm not. I have the Q990C soundbar and a Samsung range. (I despise the range, but that's another topic altogether!)
Also, keep in mind that sure, Disney+ is adding HDR10+ support, but there is a TON of other content that isn't in HDR10+.
It still befuddles me that Samsung won't pony up to add Dolby Vision. The S90D is a great TV, but I have to imagine that the people who have read up on QD-OLED technology certainly know what Dolby Vision is.
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Who misses the days there was just TVs with blu rays, no hdr and million codecs and settings and no real standard, and hdr not having good enough brightness highlights, I miss the old days with good old dvds and blu rays with just simple settings
I cancelled after the family sharing bs, along with every other service that started doing that, and setup a Plex server for my family instead. I still get to see Skeleton Crew same day, but they no longer get my money lol
I do wish it was easier to understand all these formats. We have a relatively new TV and content in UHD looks amazing, I can’t get my head around all the other formats.
Streaming service Disney+ is set to gain support for HDR10+ in the near future, according to an announcement made at CES by HDR10+ Technologies (via MediaPlayNews). HDR10+ offers improved brightness and contrast compared to HDR10, and unlike Dolby Vision, there are no licensing fees.
Disney+ already supports HDR10 and Dolby Vision, but HDR10+ titles will be coming to the service in 2025. Dolby Vision and HDR10+ are similar, but some TV sets don't support Dolby Vision due to the licensing fees. Samsung TVs, for example, don't offer Dolby Vision content, so Samsung TV owners can look forward to better quality when streaming HDR10+ Disney+ content.
The latest Apple TV 4K supports HDR10+, as do Apple's newer iPhone and iPad models. Many streaming services also already offer HDR10+ content, including Apple TV+, Hulu, Amazon Prime Video, and YouTube.
Article Link: Disney+ Adding Support for HDR10+
Okay, here we go again with entrenched opinions stated as fact. HDR10+ SUCKS! No, Dolbly Vision SUCKS! Will the infantile “mine is better than yours” arguments and misinformation ever end? Good grief.
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On what screen?
Some tvs have individual settings depending on the source type. Maybe you just have Dolby at a darker setting than hdr
Unless either the set has a very bad implementation or the grading/encode has been completely ****ed up it shouldn't make any difference to the overall brightness at all. DV enables per scene metadata and has a very, very, very slightly higher bitrate for the dynamic range detail, but that's about smoothness of the graduation between the light and dark parts, not how bright or dark the picture is in aggregate.
Heck, why not think of the good old days with VHS tapes that would get stuck in the VCRs?
In an ideal world, you're not supposed to have to. The TV, device, app, and/or platform should be handling all of it for you quietly in the background. You just need to tweak the settings for different modes when they pop up — and even that isn't strictly required. The good TVs come with decent out-of-the-box default modes that you can use, although if you use "Vivid" we cannot be friends.
In practice, stuff still doesn't work quite as it seems it should all of the time. If you don't want to fight it and deal with the headache though, the best option is to ignore that and just enjoy the content however you get it. Even if you know what you're doing, the oddities can still drive you mad. And there are approximately 18 billion internet threads about whether you should or should not use "Enable Dolby Vision" or enable matching of frame rates or dynamic range on an Apple TV. And contrary to what some say, that is not a completely open-and-shut case in all situations.
"Ignorance is bliss," as they say.
LG doesn’t support HDR10+. They do perform some tone mapping on HDR 10 that they think gets close. Here is a link that explains their thought process.