Now watch robotphone OEMs screw the whole thing up like they did, and continue to do, when the USB-C connector was introduced.
Of course, there is the chicken-and-egg problem. If prices are high, few are getting sold. And if few are sold, prices remain high. But the fact that USB-C speeds are good enough for most people is probably the main factor why so few TB peripherals are being sold.
Would usb4 cables work though? Are they functionally the same, or just have the possibility of working if the manufacturer wishes to?
Agreed. The current iMac looks dated. I can see the Mac Pro design language trickling down into consumer products.
I'm always amazed by how much data these engineers manage to squeeze over a single cable. 77.4Gb/s is pretty incredible
The max cable length is 2 metres. You can get up to 100 m with optical cables, but those are much more expensive.4-at 77Gbps, isn't this faster than Ethernet? Can this be used to send internet to households instead of fiber?
Haha I thought either this will end up being the case, or that cable will be a solid INCH in diameter XDFor best connectivity and bandwidth, please use a cable no longer than pictured below.
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Unfortunately, I don’t believe Apple is going to release a single Intel-based Mac with USB 4 onboard, instead opting to use it exclusively with ARM/Arm-based Macs and the iPad Pro post 2021/2022. Apple wants to move users over to the ARM/Arm side as quickly as possible. At least that’s what I would do if I was in charge.
"USB4 converges the Thunderbolt and USB protocols as part of Intel's goal to make Thunderbolt available on a royalty-free basis, which should result in wider and cheaper availability of Thunderbolt accessories like docks and eGPUs."
Good, nothing makes me want to rip my hair out more than the price of thunderbolt docks (even thunderbolt 2 docks - 6 year old tech are still way overpriced)
1. This is a mess. Thunderbolt 4 is USB4, but USB4 is not necessarily TB4. Problem is that USB4 will be manufacturer dependent. But if something claims to be TB4, it will implement everything from the USB4 spec.I have so many questions:
1-So is TB and USB4 the one and the same now?
2-How does Intel benefit from giving away TB royalty free?
3-Why do we need HDMI, DisplayPort, and USB4, why can we just use 1 port to transfer everything?
4-at 77Gbps, isn't this faster than Ethernet? Can this be used to send internet to households instead of fiber?
5-What are some real world uses for 77Gbsp?
But still not on MacOS even after all these yearsDisplayport also support daisy-chaining monitors.
I'm always amazed by how much data these engineers manage to squeeze over a single cable. 77.4Gb/s is pretty incredible
I just wish this one cable to rule them all in USB-C had a port of like kind on my iPhone. That would make an iPhone 12, with a notchless design just perfect!!!
"USB4 converges the Thunderbolt and USB protocols as part of Intel's goal to make Thunderbolt available on a royalty-free basis, which should result in wider and cheaper availability of Thunderbolt accessories like docks and eGPUs."
Good, nothing makes me want to rip my hair out more than the price of thunderbolt docks (even thunderbolt 2 docks - 6 year old tech are still way overpriced)
Personally, I’m waiting for 32K displays, I cannot understand the hold up!??♂️?
i need TB4 so my egpu won't be bandwidth choked.
TB4 is still limited by the same USB-C bandwidth.i need TB4 so my egpu won't be bandwidth choked.
USB 4 would be great for the next iPad Pro. I'm not expecting it though in that iteration.
However, I'd be extremely pleased in the next iPad Pro with Thunderbolt 3 even if isn't official USB 4.