DND while driving - I'm not driving!

Discussion in 'iOS 11' started by skillwill, Sep 21, 2017.

  1. skillwill macrumors 6502

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    I've now taken three bus journeys since d/l'ing iOS 11, each time my phone has "detected that I'm driving" and asked if I would like to turn on DND. So no one testing this thing took a bus and noticed this?
     
  2. jabingla2810 macrumors 68020

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    You are moving in a vehicle, it doesn't know who's driving.

    You can always turn the feature off.
     
  3. IndianBird macrumors 6502a

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    How do you expect the phone to know who is driving the vehicle?
     
  4. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    Apple magic of course.
     
  5. skillwill thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Then why release the feature if they haven't figured out how to make it work properly yet? Isn't that the kind of thing we used to laugh at Samsung for doing? Jobs would've delayed (as with copy/paste, multitasking, the iPhone itself, etc. etc.) until they perfected it.
     
  6. IndianBird macrumors 6502a

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    There is no difference between sitting in the left, right, or back seat of a moving vehicle.

    That’s why they give you the option to click “I’m not driving.”

    The carrying on and ridiculousness on this release is stronger than ever.
     
  7. skillwill thread starter macrumors 6502

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    The magic of Apple was that "it just worked". It wasn't extra clicks, software guess work, extra pop-ups, errors. Jobs would've said either we make something that KNOWS when you're driving or we don't release.
     
  8. IndianBird macrumors 6502a

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    If Apple could trust people to put their phones down while they’re driving it would be a moot point.

    They’ve been hounded by the public to do something to curb distracted driving. So this is what they can get together sooner rather than later.

    Maybe they can sell a $199 seat detector to place under the corresponding seat later in the year to help figure out if your driving or riding.
     
  9. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    Interestingly enough plenty of people complain even to this day about various glitches and other inconsistencies when it comes to how the whole selection and copy and paste work. It was never really perfect and hasn’t really been perfected even to this day really.
     
  10. daflake macrumors 6502a

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    I'm still trying to understand how the OP thinks that Apple should be able to determine what you are riding in or if you are driving. o_O
     
  11. bransoj macrumors 6502a

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    Turn the function off....sorted, end of story. In fact after i updated to iOS11 it was turned off as standard so you've had to go in to turn it on to then moan about it not working. Then there is a get out clause anyway of the "i'm not driving" pop up to let you use the phone which takes all of a second to do.
     
  12. b10cker macrumors member

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    You can always just set it to when connected to a car bluetooth, then if your not in your car it doesn’t bother you.
     
  13. andyp350, Sep 21, 2017
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    andyp350 macrumors 6502a

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    This is expected, you’re in a moving vehicle!!! It’s why it asks you if you’re driving and you can manually over ride it.
    Some people will complain about anything!
    How do you expect Apple/your phone to magically know what vehicle you’re in and whether your driving it?
     
  14. Phoboss macrumors member

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    hahaha this is the best post I've seen in a while. this is so amazing. Thank you OP, you made my day today!
    Expecting apple to detect where you're sitting in a moving vehicle, because they're apple and they can do anything. even the impossible.
    apple fanboys will expect anything, pure internet gold
     
  15. danmart macrumors 6502a

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    You jest, but if you want your front airbag to turn off in a Mercedes because you are using a child seat you have to buy the Merc seat which has some kind of transponder in it...
     
  16. skillwill, Sep 21, 2017
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    skillwill thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Of course I do, it's not impossible - I'm buying a product which says it can silence my phone when I'm driving, and it tried to when I'm not. The Apple magic was all about ending products which did the "We think you're doing this, so should we do this" stuff. They should create something that figures out if you're driving or not or not release it. There's nothing magic about getting it wrong.
     
  17. daflake, Sep 21, 2017
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    The problem is that it does work as designed. You are just wanting Apple to "guess" where you are sitting in a car or what vehicle you are in. That simply isn't possible. If you don't like the feature, turn it off.
     
  18. skillwill thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Apologies for the insult, was just getting wound up - have re-articulated my argument above because it's not reasonable to call people idiots. I just don't remember Apple coming out with as many features that have caveats, that have footnotes. It used to be simple, clear, out of the way, which is what I liked.
     
  19. Jimrod, Sep 21, 2017
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    I've had it come up twice, I don't want the feature, it's turned off, yet twice it's pestered me - both times when I wasn't driving. Same is happening to a colleague, It's frankly **** and sloppy programming that my phone is now annoying me with a feature I neither want nor use.
     
  20. skillwill thread starter macrumors 6502

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    It's indicative of iOS 11 as a whole. I always test OS's on my parents to get a good measure of how good the UX is - Apple was always the best. But with this release, for example, I asked my dad to find, from the lock screen, the notifications he may have missed. He couldn't do it - and how could he have known that you have to swipe up in the middle of the lock screen to reveal it. I asked him to turn on personal hotspot from control centre. He couldn't - how could he have just guessed that you have to 3D touch the controls? Not everyone is like us and deep dives, and reads every review, DLs every beta - and those who don't are the people we shhould use to judge this.

    When DND to drive popped up on my dad's phone, he was like "what have I pressed" - and I said you haven't, the phone just thinks you're driving when you're standing in the middle of a crowded bus. His response - Why?

    That's what gets to me - the user experience isn't the same - and where as in the past that would be a reason to hold something back, now it's just get it out half baked and we'll fix it as we go.
     
  21. daflake macrumors 6502a

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    Okay, so how would you determine if somone is on a bus or in a car driving?
     
  22. Jimrod macrumors 65816

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    I'm finding quite a few bugs with notifications, bluetooth etc which I guess will be addressed at some point (would prefer it before release really!) but I agree - the old intuitive nature of iOS where anyone could use it without instruction is rapidly disappearing. Some is due to ever more complex and increasing number of features, some it just poor implementation by Apple. :\
     
  23. skillwill, Sep 21, 2017
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    skillwill thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I wouldn't personally because I don't get paid to do R&D or build operating systems for the world's richest company and sell the resulting products for around $1,000. But 1) as a customer I do expect the people who DO get paid to do that to determine it, yes and 2) In the job that I DO get paid to do, I wouldn't be happy and my boss wouldn't accept me implementing something that poorly, so yes I do expect a good User Experience.
     
  24. daflake macrumors 6502a

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    Actually, you expect it to work as YOU think it should work. The fact is, that it is working as designed and you simply don't agree with that, that is NOT a flaw. Again, I ask, how would you make that determination? Can you tell me if I am on my phone or in my car right now?

    Let me make this is a little more clear. I am a developer and have been for many years. The only way that Apple will know what you are doing is if you tell them, they have no way to determine that without really spying on you which would be the end of Apple if they started doing that.

    If you can't answer the question, how do you expect Apple to do it? It is a goofy implementation (I agree) and one I have turned off because it is pointless.
     
  25. jabingla2810 macrumors 68020

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    Your other points on the UI are valid.

    This one is just absurd.

    The iPhone detects you are in a moving vehicle, and automatically asks you if you are driving. If you aren't, just tap 'i'm not driving.'

    And if you don't like it asking you, just turn the feature off.
     

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