do apple make their own hardware?

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  1. bob2131 macrumors 6502a

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    what do apple actually manufacture in mac computers/laptops?

    ive heard they get the hard drives and ram from other manufacturers.

    why dont the mac specs list details about motherboards?

    some people say apple actually make the operating system and the hardware. is this true?

    which parts in an apple computer are actually developed and made by apple?
    that you cant get from other third party companies.

    cheers
    just curious.
     
  2. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Apple makes the OS, the cases, and the PCBs.

    Everything else is bought.

    You must be new.
     
  3. robbieduncan Moderator emeritus

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    Apple make the OS and iLife that come with new Macs.

    The logicboards are Apple custom designed, along with the cases etc. They are actually manufactured by third parties to Apple specifications: Apple don't own any factories anymore...
     
  4. NotFound macrumors 6502a

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    usually the casing and accessories that come with

    true

    because they don't want you cloning their stuff

    they do make the operating system, they dont usually make design the hardware it runs on.

    the way i understand it is that OS X recognizes certain parts of each hardware, therefore third party hardware would not be usable.
     
  5. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    There is no computer manufacturer who makes every component of their computers. All manufacturers use other vendors for RAM, hard drives, CPUs, GPUs, etc.
     
  6. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    PCB??
     
  7. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    logicboards? what is that
     
  8. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Same thing as the motherboard. I say Printed Circuit Board.
     
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  10. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    didnt u just make a rather large thread attacking apple about not making its own components?

    Edit: my mistake, that wasnt the point of that other thread.

    my guess is english isnt your first language?
     
  11. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    The boards are designed by Apple, just as the cases are. Apple has third parties build each component, and third parties also assemble the components.
     
  12. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    dude english is my first language.
    the other long thread is not my words, its an email i got off
    my friend, edited.

    so i just posted it here, as i wanna hear some comments on it.
    im new to the mac game, im gonna buy my first macbook anyday now.
     
  13. pinktank macrumors 6502

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    if you are asking if they are made in cupertino, the answer is no
     
  14. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    ooh sry bout that, just so u know the title of the thread is awkward, start using the word "does" instead of do everywhere
     
  15. sananda macrumors 68020

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    the title reads fine.
     
  16. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    I think all the text messaging on phones is contributing to a new generation of people who don't spell or use proper grammar. It will be interesting to see what future books and newspapers will look like!
     
  17. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Front page of the New Yrk Tms: "OMG, WAR!"

    Subtitle: "Prez 2 meet ledrz @ G8"
     
  18. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    Exactly! :D It never ceases to amaze me how many in the forums are college students and they seem to not know how to spell, punctuate, capitalize or form grammatically correct sentences. What are they teaching these days? I majored in computer science (yes, they DID have computers back then!) and we were taught that spelling and punctuation can affect writing code, so we'd better learn to do it accurately!
     
  19. swordth macrumors newbie

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    Isn't the OS based off of BSD? Last time i checked OSX is just BSD with a aqua overlay...so technically, you can say they don't full make the OS. Unlike windows for example.
     
  20. jaikob macrumors 6502

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    Correction: It "Acts" Like BSD.
     
  21. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    Not anymore:

    "Leopard is an Open Brand UNIX 03 Registered Product, conforming to the SUSv3 and POSIX 1003.1 specifications for the C API, Shell Utilities, and Threads. Since Leopard can compile and run all your existing UNIX code, you can deploy it in environments that demand full conformance — complete with hooks to maintain compatibility with existing software."

    That means Leopard is a fully registered UNIX version, not just a mod of another version. See also:

    "No freely available BSD system has been registered as SUS compliant.

    Darwin is an open source operating system based on FreeBSD: it is essentially the open source subset of Mac OS X. Darwin is compliant with the SUS 03."
     
  22. priller macrumors regular

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    and contains BSD code.
     
  23. itickings macrumors 6502a

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    Technically, few companies actually manufacture their products themselves, and even fewer manufacture all parts their products are comprised of. It simply isn't cost-effective. And who is most likely to make the highest quality hard drive/RAM? Someone focusing on that area, or someone focusing on nothing/everything?

    In my opinion however, I'd say a company manufactures their products if it at least comes up with the schematics+design and is the party ordering the production of it.

    Well, you can get away with "based on BSD", but "just BSD with aqua overlay" is a bit far from reality. The operating system kernel is way different for starters. Slapping Aqua onto FreeBSD won't make it Mac OS X (even though FreeBSD is a very nice system).

    Additionally, Windows contains code not initially written by Microsoft, so I guess they don't make their OS either. ;)
     
  24. clevin macrumors G3

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    isn't funny so many ppl just won't answer ur simple question directly?

    NO. apple makes no hardwares. apple might 'design' the shape of them. such as tell hardware makers 'i want this thing to be this large'. many pc makers do the same. asus. hp. dell. etc

    Thats an improper exaggeration, don't you think?

    do us a favor, compare windows Vista and your so-called OS that windows based on, and then compare Leopard and FreeBSD and All Open OSes that apple copied over for OSX.

    I think its obvious which one is really rely on the "ancestors".

    Its fascinating you want to demeaning the FreeBSD and other Unix sources of their contribution to OSX.

    yeah, FreeBSD +Aqua!=OSX, but hey, FreeBSD and Unix is THE HARD part of OSX's equation.
     
  25. itickings macrumors 6502a

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    Actually I wouldn't think of it as an improper exaggeration as much as of me interpreting the statement "make their OS", getting ripped out of context and then blown out of proportion.

    Since Apple does control the source and development of the system, and a fair bit of additional work has gone into the system, I do think it is fair to say that Apple "makes their OS".

    The intent of my post was to point out the ambiguity of making. I find it fascinating that you managed to read so much more into it.
     

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