Do I need 2 different handbrake rips from the same file for iPhone 4 and 1080p tv?

hankkosovo

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I have a bunch of 1080p videos that I want to play through iTunes on my TV and also on my iPhone/iPad via home sharing. Using handbrake do I have to convert these at two different rates/resolutions or is possible to just convert them to H.264 with 1080p resolution and they'ed play on everything?
 

Paratel

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I think you are going to have to. I think there is a bitrate issue as well. I have a ATV 1 and 2 and anything I encode with the ATV2 setting will not play on my ATV1.
 
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jmcgeejr

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I have a bunch of 1080p videos that I want to play through iTunes on my TV and also on my iPhone/iPad via home sharing. Using handbrake do I have to convert these at two different rates/resolutions or is possible to just convert them to H.264 with 1080p resolution and they'ed play on everything?
Dont hold me to this but I believe since the iphone 4 and the ATV2 have the same hardware under the hood you wont need to re encode for two separate files.
 

jmcgeejr

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If iTunes plays it, your other Apple devices will, no?
Not true your desktop is "usually" much more powerful than say an apple tv 1 or an apple tv 2 etc. Plus if you encode it for 1080p for an iphone 4S or ipad 2, and then someone with an apple tv 1 or a first gen ipod touch, there is no way they will be able to handle the bitrate from them.
 

nateo200

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Heres what I have been doing lately. I have been creating 2-3.5 gig "intermediate" sized videos. They are all 1280x576 if the source is 2.35:1 and I crop to appropriate so it does not look stretched and they contain an AAC Dolby Pro Logic II or Dolby Surround track first for compatibility with almost everything and a second AC3 track with Dolby Digital 5.1 or Dolby Pro Logic if 5.1 isn't possible. All these are encoded from 1080p and I like to keep the bit rate above 2100 usually more. My iPhone 4 plays them fine and it gives my macs internal drives a break on size. I keep the bigger 1080p versions in .mkvs or .m2ts containers on my external for safe keeping depending on if I liked the movie :D :p. I have no idea if the Apple TV will play something with a 2100 bit rate but you can check Apples site or ask around. I find if you down sample the resolution and keep a high bit rate you can get better quality at lower resolutions allot of the time. For example I used to encode 1gig 720p videos before I really started to become a picture quality and cinema Nazi so what I do now is downsample to 960x540p which is the iPhone 4s resolution and the quality looks better....just my experience though..
 

s15119

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Dont hold me to this but I believe since the iphone 4 and the ATV2 have the same hardware under the hood you wont need to re encode for two separate files.
I know I don't. I use Handbreak, and the ATV2 setttings - the resuling file plays fine on my ATV2, my iPhone 4, my iPad2 and my wifes iPhone 4S
 

hankkosovo

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Heres what I have been doing lately. I have been creating 2-3.5 gig "intermediate" sized videos. They are all 1280x576 if the source is 2.35:1 and I crop to appropriate so it does not look stretched and they contain an AAC Dolby Pro Logic II or Dolby Surround track first for compatibility with almost everything and a second AC3 track with Dolby Digital 5.1 or Dolby Pro Logic if 5.1 isn't possible. All these are encoded from 1080p and I like to keep the bit rate above 2100 usually more. My iPhone 4 plays them fine and it gives my macs internal drives a break on size. I keep the bigger 1080p versions in .mkvs or .m2ts containers on my external for safe keeping depending on if I liked the movie :D :p. I have no idea if the Apple TV will play something with a 2100 bit rate but you can check Apples site or ask around. I find if you down sample the resolution and keep a high bit rate you can get better quality at lower resolutions allot of the time. For example I used to encode 1gig 720p videos before I really started to become a picture quality and cinema Nazi so what I do now is downsample to 960x540p which is the iPhone 4s resolution and the quality looks better....just my experience though..
Thanks for this.

If I rip everything at 1080p to a H.264, am I correct in thinking this will play on an iPhone 4, Mac and ATV 2 (it downsizes it to 720p)? Will it also play on an iPad 1?
 
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