iPhone Do I really NEED iOS13?

KhunJay

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Im on iOS 12.1.3

everything is working ok.

Do I really need to upgrade to 13? I really don't want to get involved
with fixing broken apps and updating stuff any more than I have to.

Same for my laptop...Im on early Mojave...do I need the Catalina OS that bad
or can I just chug along the way I am?

what says the forum?
 
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Steve121178

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Im on iOS 12.1.3

everything is working ok.

Do I really need to upgrade to 13? I really don't want to get involved
with fixing broken apps and updating stuff any more than I have to.

Same for my laptop...Im on early Mojave...do I need the Catalina OS that bad
or can I just chug along the way I am?

what says the forum?
The latest updates contain very important security updates amongst other improvements & features. Apple really needs to make updates mandatory...
 

upandown

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The latest updates contain very important security updates amongst other improvements & features. Apple really needs to make updates mandatory...
This and.. even as a beta it’s working very well. It will only get better. Of course you don’t HAVE to but if you care enough to ask the question then you probably should just upgrade.
 

Phogro

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Im on iOS 12.1.3

everything is working ok.

Do I really need to upgrade to 13? I really don't want to get involved
with fixing broken apps and updating stuff any more than I have to.

Same for my laptop...Im on early Mojave...do I need the Catalina OS that bad
or can I just chug along the way I am?

what says the forum?
Do you need iOS 13 - no you can wait for that to settle down.

Should you be on 12.4? Yes absolutely. It fixes a number of security risks and bugs in previous versions of iOS 12.
 

Shirasaki

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The latest updates contain very important security updates amongst other improvements & features. Apple really needs to make updates mandatory...
Enterprise users and tons of people who are still using older version of software or obsolete software will be unhappy.

Ok, ok, I get it, “a very small number of users”.
 

Shirasaki

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If you find yourself not willing to jump the gun and use iOS 12, there is absolutely no problem for that, as long as you are diligent enough to keep yourself from being accidentally updated to whatever version is the latest. I certainly can relate.
 

TheSkywalker77

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If you don’t want to get weekly updates and deal with bugs, no, you don’t need iOS 13. However, once 13.1 or even 13.2 releases to the public you might want to install it then (unless you dislike the update which is fine, iOS 12 works just fine, just be sure to install 12.4) But no, you don’t need to update. Only if you want to.

As for your computer, I’d definitely recommend you to update to 10.14.6 for security reasons if you don’t want to install Catalina.
 

bodonnell202

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Im on iOS 12.1.3

everything is working ok.

Do I really need to upgrade to 13? I really don't want to get involved
with fixing broken apps and updating stuff any more than I have to.

Same for my laptop...Im on early Mojave...do I need the Catalina OS that bad
or can I just chug along the way I am?

what says the forum?
You certainly don’t need iOS 13 right now as it is still in beta, but I would highly recommend updating to iOS 12.4 right now, as aside from the security, bug and feature updates, iOS 12.4 even improves battery life slightly compared to earlier versions of iOS 12. There’s really no good reason to hold out on iOS 12.1.3.
 

KhunJay

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Thanks for the advice....I'll get the iOS 12.4 then.

For my laptop, Ive activated the auto instal of system data files and security updates...so hopefully that
helps.
 

PastaPrimav

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Im on iOS 12.1.3

everything is working ok.

Do I really need to upgrade to 13? I really don't want to get involved
with fixing broken apps and updating stuff any more than I have to.

Same for my laptop...Im on early Mojave...do I need the Catalina OS that bad
or can I just chug along the way I am?

what says the forum?
Given the current state of them, I would greatly advise no. They are a disaster, and won't be approaching anything close to stable until 13.2 or 13.3.
 

redgreenski

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I would say no while 13 is in Beta version. After that I would probably wait still 1-3 months before upgrading. I would not wait much longer than that as you should have at latest bug fixes for security reasons.
 

eoblaed

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Given the current state of them, I would greatly advise no. They are a disaster, and won't be approaching anything close to stable until 13.2 or 13.3.
Fake News: while Catalina has a lot of problems, iOS13 and iPadOS 13 are running very stable.
Though I agree thread starter should stick with 12.X since he’s happy with 12.
The irony of this post is astounding.

No, they are not very stable. Not at all. Not even close.

What problems are you having with the latest betas of iOS 13? My phone and my iPad have both been very stable for several betas now. Every once in a great while I might notice something peculiar, but as far as stability goes, they've been rock solid.
 

harriska2

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I gave up on mail (for google) and safari sometimes takes 10+ seconds to load a page or it crashes (facebook.com). Not super stable but it is useable.
 

mebehere

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I have my iPad 5th gen running the latest public version of iOS 13. It’s not perfect, but I’m not crushing the new features like my life depends on it. Seems pretty stable overall.
 

mikecwest

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I have my iPad 5th gen running the latest public version of iOS 13. It’s not perfect, but I’m not crushing the new features like my life depends on it. Seems pretty stable overall.
Yeah, maybe it would be more helpful if I included those details, I have a MacBook Pro 2018, Apple Watch 3, and iPhone 7+....

There are some users here that seem to want to bash all the new software, but never give any specific examples...anyway, I'm off to Olive Garden....
 

SoYoung

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Short answer is no, you don't need iOS 13 beta on your device.

Yes it adding a lot of things, but its mostly small things. Nothing that will change the way you use your phone. I have installed the beta on 2 of my old iPads just to mess around with it but I'm not in rush to install on my main devices yet. Still some bugs and I can easily wait for these features. The final built is just around the corner now.
 

EugW

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It really depends on what applications you are running but since you are concerned I would recommend updating to 12.4 now, and then upgrading to iOS/iPadOS 13 when it hits 13.1.

My iPad Pro is already on iPadOS 13 and it is very stable. However, some of my third party apps don’t behave with it. This is typical though, since those apps often don’t get upgraded until after the new version of the OS is officially released.
 
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alien3dx

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Enterprise users and tons of people who are still using older version of software or obsolete software will be unhappy.

Ok, ok, I get it, “a very small number of users”.
this is important.. because like server,system app i never suggest to connect to internet if not required and yeah it brea everything upon upgrade..
 

iseras

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I have installed the latest beta on the iPad. Total game changer. Very minor bugs. Worth it.
 
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