Do I really need to put my real name under 'seller'?

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  1. MacNoobGuy macrumors 6502

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    hey guys, i'm trying to learn how to become an iOS developer. i just noticed on this page that i need to include my name under 'seller': https://developer.apple.com/enroll/selectEnrollmentType.php?t=nm

    i really don't feel comfortable with putting my name on the App Store. is this really necessary? is there some way for me to get around it?

    thanks
     
  2. CylonGlitch macrumors 68030

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    When you submit your first application you can pick a name to put it under. But once you pick that name, you cannot change it.
     
  3. Bear macrumors G3

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    Think up a business name. Do a web search to make sure it's not in use.
     
  4. dejo Moderator

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    The only way to get around it is to register as a Company rather than an Individual. And companies have a whole new set of qualifications that are harder to satisfy in order to be approved.
     
  5. ArtOfWarfare macrumors 604

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    Chances are your name isn't unique... it's not like someone will be able to identify you just from your name. (I assume privacy is the discomfort here, maybe I'm wrong.) You are asking people for money - or at least to trust your app to not do malicious things on their devices - I think being able to have your name in exchange is fair.
     
  6. firewood macrumors 604

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    No hiding another name allowed.

    Apple does not allow DBAs or fictitious names to enroll in the iOS Developer program (except as individuals under their own personal name). If you want to use a company name, you will need to incorporate your development business (as an LLC, S-corp, C-corp, etc.), and enroll that corporation as a company, using the legal company name as per your incorporation documents (where a public record leads back to you anyway). See you lawyer for details.
     
  7. MacNoobGuy thread starter macrumors 6502

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    ok, thanks a lot bro. yah, it didn't make sense for me to put a fictitious name in.

    for me to join as a company, how difficult is it to setup a company?
     
  8. nathanlloyd macrumors member

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    Whereabouts are you based? In the UK you just need to register with companies house. It costs around £18.

    I did this about a month ago and I'm now approved by Apple.
     
  9. astrorider macrumors 6502

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    You're right, you can use a Company Name (DBA) and enroll as an individual. When signed up this way, in some places in the App Store your Company Name will be shown (at the top next to your app's name, and in references to your web site), and in others your individual name will be shown along with your Company Name (next to Seller).
     
  10. dejo Moderator

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    According to the Program Enrollment FAQ, this is not allowed:
     
  11. astrorider macrumors 6502

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    Sorry if I wasn't clear. You enter both your real name and your Company Name when you enroll as an individual. That's why I listed the places where your Company Name (DBA) shows in the App Store, and where your real name and Company Name show.
     
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    Where does Apple request your company name when you enroll as an individual?

    Hmm, do you have any examples from the App Store where both legal name and company name are shown (for someone registered as an individual)?
     
  13. firewood, Apr 19, 2012
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    They don't ask when you enroll. They ask when you want to release your first app.

    You can enter one other business name, which can then not be changed, and which will be used for search results (even if the business name is not in any of the app's keywords or app name or enrolled developer's name). This business name also shows up in some other places in the App store (but Apple has changed that place from time to time).

    But, currently, your individual name still shows up as the app developer/seller.

    Here's an example from today's New and Noteworthy section: search for "Cave Run" (an app name) or "Ravenous Games" (a company name). But the Seller is listed as Mr. Doucett (likely an individual Developer). But look for the company name in the "More By" listing. So both the individual seller and the company names appear in iTunes.

    There appear to be thousands of devs with this dual individual/DBA type listing.
     
  14. astrorider macrumors 6502

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    Thanks for clarifying this. It's been a couple years since I set mine up this way, and I couldn't remember the steps I used.
     
  15. MacNoobGuy thread starter macrumors 6502

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    wait, i'm confused now. so even if i setup a company -- my real name will still be there?
     
  16. dejo Moderator

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    If you register as a Company, your real name will never appear.
     
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  18. MacNoobGuy thread starter macrumors 6502

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    anyone know an apple email i can contact about this?

    thanks
     
  19. firewood macrumors 604

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    About what? Incorporating?

    Talk to a lawyer.

    Apple will likely just refer you to their online documentation, which you should hunt down and read.
     
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  21. MacNoobGuy thread starter macrumors 6502

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    can i use a middle name rather than my first name?
     
  22. miles01110 macrumors Core

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    Maybe you should reconsider your grand plans for iOS Development. If you seriously cannot get past something as simple as entering your legal name as required, I can't imagine you're going to be very successful when it comes to more complicated information.
     
  23. ArtOfWarfare macrumors 604

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    Sure, and Apple can send your checks to whoever actually has that legal name.

    You don't seem to understand how serious this is. You're signing a contract giving you permission to sell apps on the official app store. It's not a garage sale. It's not a lemonade stand. Real people pay real money for real products.
     
  24. firewood macrumors 604

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    What's name is on your ID, bank account and credit card?

    That's the name that Apple requires to enroll (except for corporations). They might even require that you fax them a notarized copy of your passport.

    Or do you want to waste $99?
     
  25. dejo Moderator

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    MacNoobGuy, it seems we are having a hard time understanding why you want to avoid using your legal name. What is your aversion to putting your name on your product? Do you not want to stand behind the product that people are purchasing from you? Maybe you should elaborate on why you are not wanting to use your name.
     

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