Do I really own ITunes Movies?

[Jerezanito]

In the past years I’m purchasing and redeem digital movies from iTunes, but one of my favorites movies is gone from my library, according to a ITunes representative sometimes it can happens they have the right to remove content, he recommends to star download my purchases into hard drive WOW ?, is this really the only way download my purchases, I believe they only can download in HD, some of them play in 4K, also if you store them in a Hard drive they only going to play from the same computer were download because the library is going to be linked to only this computer, please comment below if you guys have any ideas about this issue, any idea if you guy save the movies how you guys doing this.

 

[AZhappyjack]

In the past years I’m purchasing and redeem digital movies from iTunes, but one of my favorites movies is gone from my library, according to a ITunes representative sometimes it can happens they have the right to remove content, he recommends to star download my purchases into hard drive WOW 😮, is this really the only way download my purchases, I believe they only can download in HD, some of them play in 4K, also if you store them in a Hard drive they only going to play from the same computer were download because the library is going to be linked to only this computer, please comment below if you guys have any ideas about this issue, any idea if you guy save the movies how you guys doing this.

No, you never OWN digital content. You purchase a license to USE the media (play/stream/etc). However when Apple's licensing agreement with the content rights owner expires, they are required to pull it from their catalog and you, as the end user/consumer, are SOL. Downloading is the only protection you have in the case of digital rights being pulled/expiring.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

Until a movie is removed from the store you have it available on all machines, no matter if you downloaded it or not.

 

[400]

You only get 4k on the streaming. HD for downloads. It is in the T+C but I use Cheap Charts to highlight the deals and have never bought a full price film apart from one or two.

For example I am waiting for Pacific Rim 2 to drop past the £5, probably £2. Same for Men in Black 4, neither I see as a full price flick. But then I did get Iron Mask with Jackie Chan and Swarzewotisiname for £2 and by the powers of grey skull! it is dire, 50p tops.

Space saved is immense and I accept the risk and quality. For the films that need a hard copy, 2001 for example, I get the disk. I had started to download the films but it was starting to take-up a lot of space on the HD.

 

[-Gonzo-]

In the past years I’m purchasing and redeem digital movies from iTunes, but one of my favorites movies is gone from my library, according to a ITunes representative sometimes it can happens they have the right to remove content, he recommends to star download my purchases into hard drive WOW ?, is this really the only way download my purchases, I believe they only can download in HD, some of them play in 4K, also if you store them in a Hard drive they only going to play from the same computer were download because the library is going to be linked to only this computer, please comment below if you guys have any ideas about this issue, any idea if you guy save the movies how you guys doing this.

What movie is missing?
Have you looked in your library or are you just using the search function?

 

[cardfan]

Never download since they’re low quality but was under the impression these had drm as well baked in.

 

[Jerezanito]

No, you never OWN digital content. You purchase a license to USE the media (play/stream/etc). However when Apple's licensing agreement with the content rights owner expires, they are required to pull it from their catalog and you, as the end user/consumer, are SOL. Downloading is the only protection you have in the case of digital rights being pulled/expiring.

thank you for your reply, what is the best way to download and save them in case one day iTunes or more movies disappears you newer know!

 

[Jerezanito]

Never download since they’re low quality but was under the impression these had drm as well baked in.

yes only HD

 

[Jerezanito]

What movie is missing?
Have you looked in your library or are you just using the search function?

yes someone from iTunes was helping me, we look in the hide section too and notting,
is BACKDRAFT MOVIE 1991

 

[zakarhino]

Short answer: no, and that's a huge problem.

 

[Analog Kid]

Sorry this happened... It's the reason I only buy music and films on CD and BluRay.

I won't be surprised if content disappearing starts to happen more often now that it's more mainstream. I feel like nobody wanted to upset the applecart (so to speak) when they were still trying to convince people digital libraries were a better alternative to physical media.

 

[now i see it]

After you’ve watched -any- movie three times, do you really want to watch it 3 more times? Watching any movie too many times probably isn’t good for the brain. The scenes in the movie become ingrained in long term memory forever - as if they were actual life experiences. That can’t be good.

It’s much better to rent movies than buy them. You can generally rent the same movie three times to equal a purchase — and after that you probably shouldn’t be watching it anymore anyhow.

 

[SigEp265]

This is why i try and buy the bluray and rip it.

 

[hello(again)]

"The scenes in the movie become ingrained in long term memory forever - as if they were actual life experiences"

...What?

 

[stinkhorn9]

Sorry this happened... It's the reason I only buy music and films on CD and BluRay.

I won't be surprised if content disappearing starts to happen more often now that it's more mainstream. I feel like nobody wanted to upset the applecart (so to speak) when they were still trying to convince people digital libraries were a better alternative to physical media.

I only download mp3s (usually from Amazon - and I store them on an external hard drive) if I can't find the CD anywhere. At least then I still have the file, if not the physical object...

 

[-Gonzo-]

yes someone from iTunes was helping me, we look in the hide section too and notting,
is BACKDRAFT MOVIE 1991

What country are you in?
Just checked mine and it’s still in my US account and It’s still in the UK store so doesn’t appear to be a relisted title.
So does Backdaft even appear if you search for it in the store?
I’ve only had one movie disappear once before which was Source Code but it did come back a few weeks later so can only think the same will happen in this case.

 

[biffuz]

After you’ve watched -any- movie three times, do you really want to watch it 3 more times? Watching any movie too many times probably isn’t good for the brain. The scenes in the movie become ingrained in long term memory forever - as if they were actual life experiences. That can’t be good.

Wait, you're telling me that I didn't actually went back in time to 1955 and kissed my mom?!?

Seriously, if you really want to "own" a media forever, just buy a physical copy (or a file you can download and copy wherever).

 

[w5jck]

Wait, you're telling me that I didn't actually went back in time to 1955 and kissed my mom?!?

Seriously, if you really want to "own" a media forever, just buy a physical copy (or a file you can download and copy wherever).

Nothing is forever. The media on which the movie is stored degrades over time. Plus media types and their players go extinct from the market making it more difficult to view them. Even the Blu-Ray and DVDs will degrade in a few decades, or less. It is rather funny that cuneiform tablets from ancient Mesopotamia have now lasted 4,500+ years, but those 5.25" floppy disks we used in the 1980s have long since deteriorated!

 

[-Gonzo-]

Nothing is forever. The media on which the movie is stored degrades over time. Plus media types and their players go extinct from the market making it more difficult to view them. Even the Blu-Ray and DVDs will degrade in a few decades, or less. It is rather funny that cuneiform tablets from ancient Mesopotamia have now lasted 4,500+ years yet those 5.25" floppy disks we used in the 1980s have long since deteriorated!

You’ve got that right about nothing being forever, this is my Wife’s VHS copy of The Matrix that was in our lounge cupboard that we recently looked at while going down memory lane.

 

[biffuz]

Nothing is forever. The media on which the movie is stored degrades over time. Plus media types and their players go extinct from the market making it more difficult to view them. Even the Blu-Ray and DVDs will degrade in a few decades, or less. It is rather funny that cuneiform tablets from ancient Mesopotamia have now lasted 4,500+ years, but those 5.25" floppy disks we used in the 1980s have long since deteriorated!

Well, "forever" in relative terms...

Also, floppy disks are more resilient than expected. I do have a pile of 5.25" that still work.

You’ve got that right about nothing being forever, this is my Wife’s VHS copy of The Matrix that was in our lounge cupboard that we recently looked at while going down memory lane.
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Wow, never seen this!

 

[Jerezanito]

What country are you in?
Just checked mine and it’s still in my US account and It’s still in the UK store so doesn’t appear to be a relisted title.
So does Backdaft even appear if you search for it in the store?
I’ve only had one movie disappear once before which was Source Code but it did come back a few weeks later so can only think the same will happen in this case.

US is there in the store just have the option to buy it not to play or download.

 

[-Gonzo-]

US is there in the store just have the option to buy it not to play or download.

So being in the US I take it you’ve got that linked to Movies Anywhere?
If so does it show in Movies Anywhere?
How did you get it in your account, buy from iTunes, buy from another service, redemption code?
It was from iTunes are you sure you bought it and didn’t accidentally rent it?
There’s definitely got to be more to this as it’s unlikely they’d remove it from just one persons account, if it was a licensing issue then it would affect everyone who’s bought that movie.

 

[400]

Think it is something to approach with a certain mindset.
A 4k disk will set me back £20+. I don't buy anything less than 4k hard copy. A lot of my iTunes purchases were HD and they have had the bump up to 4k for streaming (there are more 4k now so easier to buy but they still get excellent price drops). Most were deals at cheap cheap prices, and I am saving space on storage of the hard copy. 300 or so films now. When I was SD DVD only, I had around 200 most of which I watched once and took space I needed.


If you really want a keeper and will wear out the disk watching it that much, get the hard copy. See a cheap deal on a film you like but willing to take a punt on availability, get the iTunes and forget about it. Never buy full prices, play the long game and they all drop in price making this approach more bearable.
Worth looking at

All iTunes Movie Deals - Your price tracker for iTunes and Vudu | CheapCharts

Save up to 80% on iTunes movie deals and other offers for all digital products like movies, music, TV shows, books, audiobooks and apps. CheapCharts is the ultimate deal platform and price tracker for iTunes and Vudu Stores.

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Play the long game and get em cheap

I thought the biggest risk was a studio pulling 4k support rather than pulling the film (they drop the rate to HD)? Only one film that has happened to me. Dropped 4k back to HD.

If the studios and ISP and gateways can get their act together, streaming can potentially out do hard copies. I would love to see a personal digital wallet, once you buy something it stays with you for life and is portable across many companies and protected in law. Oh well, one can dream.

...What?

"Take off, nuke the site from orbit""Don't call me Shirley""right turn Clyde"

 

[-Gonzo-]

Never buy full prices, play the long game and they all drop in price making this approach more bearable.
Worth looking at

All iTunes Movie Deals - Your price tracker for iTunes and Vudu | CheapCharts

Save up to 80% on iTunes movie deals and other offers for all digital products like movies, music, TV shows, books, audiobooks and apps. CheapCharts is the ultimate deal platform and price tracker for iTunes and Vudu Stores.

www.cheapcharts.info

Play the long game and get em cheap

Exactly, on the odd occasion I might buy full price if I feel it deserves it but for the most part I buy cheap and quite often cheaper than the rental price for movies.

 

[HDFan]

if you really want to "own" a media forever, just buy a physical copy (or a file you can download and copy wherever).

My process is to rip my 4K disks without compression. With multiple digital backups I don't have to worry about any physical media failures. If formats or whatever change in the future during the transition period I would just copy them to the new media type.

A 4k disk will set me back £20+.

Dunno if you can order from the U.S. but the best prices of the year for 4K and 1080p Blu-Rays with digital copies are active. Prices are as low as $7.99 US and that includes a digital copy. For some disks that means that the physical media is effectively free.

Best 4K Blu-ray Deals

www.blu-ray.com

Amazon and Best Buy prices are usually identical. There are about 150 titles on sale now.

My amazon account works for U.K. Amazon and I can usually use it to order from the U.K. site. Assume is is the same for other Eurozone Amazon sites.