Do not try to walk away from Apple now

freepomme

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I've been telling this entire forum for years. If you keep supporting every Apple decision, even though it's disadvantageous for your wallet then you are EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE for Apple's downhill slide.

Everyone's acting so surprised by the lackluster Macs released recently. But I tried to tell them this is what would happen. I can't really take their complaining as sincere. We tried to tell them.

Don't complain about these Macs now. Don't complain about the lack of ports, the dongles, the hassle. Just buy it like you always do. Do NOT walk out on Apple now.

You remained with Apple in it's dysfunction. You went out and bought all these iPads, Macs and iPhones in record number.

So you are therefore partly to blame for Apple's downhill slide, do not try to jump ship on Apple now!
 

andreyush

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This the some stupid logic right here! No, WE must leave the Apple ship because Apple must see that if they do what they want they are losing the game here. Apple needs to be pushed from the back to do something good and we need to say something when we don't like it!

This logic: Kiss Apple ass to be rewarded. NEVER ! I will never buy something blindfolded.
 
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Zenithal

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What did you see my friend ? Tell me.
15" rMBP-Mid 2012 256GB, i7 2.3 GHz 8GB RAM

For someone who wants better hardware that will last, you made a silly blinded choice of buying a pitiful MacBook Pro with awful specs. If you're going to suggest the OP's logic isn't sound, reflect on your own choices. You supported Apple yourself by buying a machine with specs that should have been commonplace in 2012, not 2015.
 

andreyush

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15" rMBP-Mid 2012 256GB, i7 2.3 GHz 8GB RAM

For someone who wants better hardware that will last, you made a silly blinded choice of buying a pitiful MacBook Pro with awful specs. If you're going to suggest the OP's logic isn't sound, reflect on your own choices. You supported Apple yourself by buying a machine with specs that should have been commonplace in 2012, not 2015.
Woaw. The consumerism is strong with you.

Dude this Macbook does everything for me. I work in Logic and it runs perfectly. No problems. I don't want to have the latest specs just to be a boss at Starbucks Coffee. Sorry. It runs great and if you don't know a Macbook Pro can last very long time. And no I didn't made blindfolded choices. It was at that time (2013) very cheap and as now, very powerfull. It's clearly that you don't know what are you talking. I don't even want to talk about benchmarks.
My Macbook Pro is fine for the next 5 years :p. Sorry that I will not throw like a sheep money to Apple .
 

Zenithal

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Woaw. The consumerism is strong with you.

Dude this Macbook does everything for me. I work in Logic and it runs perfectly. No problems. I don't want to have the latest specs just to be a boss at Starbucks Coffee. Sorry. It runs great and if you don't know a Macbook Pro can last very long time. And no I didn't made blindfolded choices. It was at that time (2013) very cheap and as now, very powerfull. It's clearly that you don't know what are you talking. I don't even want to talk about benchmarks.
My Macbook Pro is fine for the next 5 years :p. Sorry that I will not throw like a sheep money to Apple .
Right. I had a MBP last about 7 years. I know what I'm talking about. There's a difference between consumerism and getting value for your money. Apple has been on a decline for years. Long before Jobs went bye-bye. I'm sorry if you feel your purchase in 2015 was a valid one, but it really isn't for the price paid. Old laptops from 2012 of the Workstation variety sporting a 3820QM still work plenty fast with an SSD these days. Static and sterile benchmarks are one thing, real world use is another. I can run benchmarks on my Ivy Bridge-E platform all day long if I wanted to. If says little about real world use. It's akin to running a speed test on your cable modem. I can pull over 120 Mbps from a test server, which roughly translates to 15 MB. But all of this is impacted in real world use depending on where I'm downloading data from and to a lesser extent, how fast my SSD can write to.
 

andreyush

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Right. I had a MBP last about 7 years. I know what I'm talking about. There's a difference between consumerism and getting value for your money. Apple has been on a decline for years. Long before Jobs went bye-bye. I'm sorry if you feel your purchase in 2015 was a valid one, but it really isn't for the price paid. Old laptops from 2012 of the Workstation variety sporting a 3820QM still work plenty fast with an SSD these days. Static and sterile benchmarks are one thing, real world use is another. I can run benchmarks on my Ivy Bridge-E platform all day long if I wanted to. If says little about real world use. It's akin to running a speed test on your cable modem. I can pull over 120 Mbps from a test server, which roughly translates to 15 MB. But all of this is impacted in real world use depending on where I'm downloading data from and to a lesser extent, how fast my SSD can write to.

I bought the macbook in 2013. I joined macrumors in 2015.
 

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I've been telling this entire forum for years. If you keep supporting every Apple decision, even though it's disadvantageous for your wallet then you are EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE for Apple's downhill slide.

Everyone's acting so surprised by the lackluster Macs released recently. But I tried to tell them this is what would happen. I can't really take their complaining as sincere. We tried to tell them.

Don't complain about these Macs now. Don't complain about the lack of ports, the dongles, the hassle. Just buy it like you always do. Do NOT walk out on Apple now.

You remained with Apple in it's dysfunction. You went out and bought all these iPads, Macs and iPhones in record number.

So you are therefore partly to blame for Apple's downhill slide, do not try to jump ship on Apple now!

How can you be telling the entire forum for years when you have been on the forum for one year?
 

hiddenmarkov

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No we can leave. and not feel guilty.

Thing is apple was bought for some for workflows. We had the hope things would improve and in the meantime....we bought stuff since like in my case a switch from FCP not easy to do. New flows, how does our old stuff convert over, the actual conversions there after.

And we have been vocal in the forums. Give us a laptop with some balls.

with this 2016/2017....apple has removed rays of hope. The anorexia....annoys. why can't we have nice things? battery life. Battery life even the people who need power if the anorexia stopped we'd have.

Look we made it smaller. So what you are saying is you found space, saw you had the option of filling that void (cough battery cough) or make it smaller and option 2 was chosen.

And they take option 2 often now. With extensive data from other vendors showing yes, we sell bigger laptops. Old boy/girl wants their 970M, now 10?? video cards (or whatever higher AMD mobile options exist) , and more robust ram options they get a bit stronger carrying the grams around.

My hesitancy for workflows...almost gone. Nov and Dec are busy shooting months for me. Possibly my last dance with FCP. post X-mas downtime will have to head to head trial/demo battles....Premier vs. Avid. Winner gets...+1 user.

I am leery of paying 1300 for a perpetual license (avid). I hate adobe with a passion...so a fair fight there, both have preexisting conditions to work from and overcome to impress me. this gets me off the software codependency. Phase 2....new hardware. See FCP and BBedit are my only mac only applications. I will miss them but the hardware costs (and the lackluster returns I get from that) is just piling up the -1 column for reasons to stay.
 
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AlexH

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Now is precisely the moment to let our dollars do the talking.
 

T5BRICK

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My early 2015 rMBP may be the last Mac I buy. It depends on what the market does in the next 3 or so years. If everyone moves in the same direction as Apple and continues to adopt USB-C and wireless, I'll probably stick around.
 

Capt T

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15" rMBP-Mid 2012 256GB, i7 2.3 GHz 8GB RAM

For someone who wants better hardware that will last, you made a silly blinded choice of buying a pitiful MacBook Pro with awful specs. If you're going to suggest the OP's logic isn't sound, reflect on your own choices. You supported Apple yourself by buying a machine with specs that should have been commonplace in 2012, not 2015.
And his/hers is from 2012....so not sure the point.


If what Apple offers works for you buy it...if not don't...simple.
 

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Now is precisely the moment to let our dollars do the talking.
I refuse to buy any of the new latest MacBooks and MacBook Pros. I am also refusing to buy any of the latest iPads and the iPhone 7.

I will likely buy the 7S+ next year but as far as laptops, I'm probably done with Apple.

I'll keep using my 2012 non retina 13" and my 2015 15" MBP, both of which I bought last summer brand new.

The iPhone is what made me buy my first Mac in 2007. Back then, I thought it was insane paying $2000 for a 15" MBP. I didn't even pay full price for my 15" 2015 MBP. Now the price has gone up for the 2016. Even a sale price this time around won't make me want to but is without all the ports that I want and use all the time.
 
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Abazigal

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Now is precisely the moment to let our dollars do the talking.
Precisely! Perhaps with dropping MacBook sales, Apple will renew their focus on turning the iPad into a laptop replacement and releasing more software updates for it!

Darn it! I just spoke out loud and revealed my dastardly plan!
 
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Goldfrapp

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iPhone 8 is their last chance to redeem themselves in the eyes of the 99%-ers.

Don't f*** it up, Taylor.
 

freepomme

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15" rMBP-Mid 2012 256GB, i7 2.3 GHz 8GB RAM

For someone who wants better hardware that will last, you made a silly blinded choice of buying a pitiful MacBook Pro with awful specs. If you're going to suggest the OP's logic isn't sound, reflect on your own choices. You supported Apple yourself by buying a machine with specs that should have been commonplace in 2012, not 2015.
+1 all this blind devotion is coming back to bite them. Since for years y'all have blindly been devoted to Apple, when something comes out that doesn't make the cutting room floor, we are going to make y'all swallow that pill. Buy it. You have to buy it!
 
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