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Haha!!! Ur kidding right?!? Samsung would be no where without apple, do u remember who invented wifi? Who made the first touch phones? ( not the pen ones) not just samsung the world would be now where without apple and that other dude was right just battery sucking features while we got retina display a6 processors and did u get that another 5 star rated phone from itunes? It was rated 5 stars (again for top customer satisfaction) iphones were, are, and always will be the best phones on earth and considering u got the newest one (like all of us here) well thats freakin awesome!!

Please tell me you did not just say Apple invented WiFi and touch phones...
 
Haha!!! Ur kidding right?!? Samsung would be no where without apple, do u remember who invented wifi? Who made the first touch phones? ( not the pen ones) not just samsung the world would be now where without apple and that other dude was right just battery sucking features while we got retina display a6 processors and did u get that another 5 star rated phone from itunes? It was rated 5 stars (again for top customer satisfaction) iphones were, are, and always will be the best phones on earth and considering u got the newest one (like all of us here) well thats freakin awesome!!

You went full retard man. Never go full retard
 
Haha!!! Ur kidding right?!? Samsung would be no where without apple, do u remember who invented wifi? Who made the first touch phones? ( not the pen ones) not just samsung the world would be now where without apple and that other dude was right just battery sucking features while we got retina display a6 processors and did u get that another 5 star rated phone from itunes? It was rated 5 stars (again for top customer satisfaction) iphones were, are, and always will be the best phones on earth and considering u got the newest one (like all of us here) well thats freakin awesome!!

This one is for the hall of fame, really :D
 
Haha!!! Ur kidding right?!? Samsung would be no where without apple, do u remember who invented wifi? Who made the first touch phones? ( not the pen ones) not just samsung the world would be now where without apple and that other dude was right just battery sucking features while we got retina display a6 processors and did u get that another 5 star rated phone from itunes? It was rated 5 stars (again for top customer satisfaction) iphones were, are, and always will be the best phones on earth and considering u got the newest one (like all of us here) well thats freakin awesome!!


It was worth making this thread just to read this.

CLASSSSSSSSIC POST A+++++
 
On topic, I don't think the device itself is outdated, just the software.

The annoying persistent bugs of iOS that linger!! Drives me nuts.

Here's my favorite, the upside down picture in an email.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3431867?start=0&tstart=0

I have to pre warn people when I'm sending photos (taken with the iPhone using the native camera app and emailing with the native email app) they might be upside down. Sure enough, got this a bit ago.

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Does it so often I can't use the iPhone for work. Btw its only when a Mac or PC looks at the pics.

The Facebook notification bug is annoying to. Rarely notifies, never alerts(sound). I blame Apple now with their claims of full Facebook integrations.

Then just the native apps themselves. They need to all be updated. Although I have many for each I'll name just one.

Maps, avoidances
Messages, better time stamps
Safari, private mode on/off in app
Mail, attach multiple PDF's
Camera, white balance, iso etc
FmF, UGLY UI.
App Store, incredibly slow with 6.x redesign
Camera Roll, Dates!!!!
Weather, change the static icon
DnD, set days

I could name a lot of things for every app though. I MIGHT be able to understand it if Apple allowed replacements for those apps in the app store and the ones the do they allowed it to be set as a default. But they don't, they let their native software get outdated for some reason.

It's my opinion Apple has a LONG way to go. Not just revamping the OS but revamping and updating EVERYTHING. Over a thousand pictures in my camera roll, no automatic organization or accessible dates so it takes me an hour to find an old pic. It's just getting silly at this point.
 
Haha!!! Ur kidding right?!? Samsung would be no where without apple, do u remember who invented wifi? Who made the first touch phones? ( not the pen ones) not just samsung the world would be now where without apple and that other dude was right just battery sucking features while we got retina display a6 processors and did u get that another 5 star rated phone from itunes? It was rated 5 stars (again for top customer satisfaction) iphones were, are, and always will be the best phones on earth and considering u got the newest one (like all of us here) well thats freakin awesome!!

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I think the iphone 4S was the pinnacle of Apple technology and is one of the few apple products I may ever own. I was literally amazed by it with how much technology was crammed into that little phone; but this Galaxy S4 literally has a 1080p screen on a phone and a vicious processor more customizability. Apple is now a dead goat.
 
Outdated?

Hardware wise? A little bit. But many things with the hardware can be argued down to preference. I have to admit, I am enjoying one handed use far more on my iPhone 5 for very obvious reasons. Worth it? Not in my opinion.

But software wise? That's a whole different story.

iOS is, without a doubt, objectively speaking, an inferior operating system compared to Android. There isn't even a question of preference. No one I know of prefers to do things harder, longer, and in more convoluted ways. I always knew, from my 4S days, that there were a few things here and there that I didn't like about iOS. But it isn't until now, with the iPhone 5, that I've returned to it in a different place in my life, where I need my smartphone for far more in both work and pleasure, that I see iOS has a sick joke. All the more so because it's behind the moniker "world's most advanced operating system." Talk about a hyperbole.

Every corner of the OS (without jailbreak) just reeks of limitations. Accomplishing things feels horridly manual. The music player (can't queue music?), mail (not just attachments, but navigating the mail app itself and not having your full inbox/outbox/labels preloaded at your fingertips. If I have no service, I can still access nearly my entire Gmail on Android), the keyboard (though much improved since I last remember), downloading PDFs, settings, app settings, safari, the app store (my password every time I download? Every.Single.Time? Seriously?)... I mean, I can go on and on.

The world's most advanced operating system... iOS... "it's a bad joke."

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Outdated?

Hardware wise? A little bit. But many things with the hardware can be argued down to preference. I have to admit, I am enjoying one handed use far more on my iPhone 5 for very obvious reasons. Worth it? Not in my opinion.

But software wise? That's a whole different story.

iOS is, without a doubt, objectively speaking, an inferior operating system compared to Android. There isn't even a question of preference. No one I know of prefers to do things harder, longer, and in more convoluted ways. I always knew, from my 4S days, that there were a few things here and there that I didn't like about iOS. But it isn't until now, with the iPhone 5, that I've returned to it in a different place in my life, where I need my smartphone for far more in both work and pleasure, that I see iOS has a sick joke. All the more so because it's behind the moniker "world's most advanced operating system." Talk about a hyperbole.

Every corner of the OS (without jailbreak) just reeks of limitations. Accomplishing things feels horridly manual. The music player (can't queue music?), mail (not just attachments, but navigating the mail app itself and not having your full inbox/outbox/labels preloaded at your fingertips. If I have no service, I can still access nearly my entire Gmail on Android), the keyboard (though much improved since I last remember), downloading PDFs, settings, app settings, safari, the app store (my password every time I download? Every.Single.Time? Seriously?)... I mean, I can go on and on.

The world's most advanced operating system... iOS... "it's a bad joke."

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You simply cannot just make that declaration purely based on your own biases and anecdotes. Its just plain wrong from an objective standpoint.

There are consumers out there who feel the complete opposite and LOVE their iPhones and the functionality and aesthetics of iOS.

Just say Android is superior to iOS for your own usage pattern and call it a day. Don't just pontificate your opinion/interpretations as fact.
 
You simply cannot just make that declaration purely based on your own biases and anecdotes. Its just plain wrong from an objective standpoint.

There are consumers out there who feel the complete opposite and LOVE their iPhones and the functionality and aesthetics of iOS.

Just say Android is superior to iOS for your own usage pattern and call it a day. Don't just pontificate your opinion/interpretations as fact.


If one method takes one step to accomplish something desirable while another method takes two, which is better?

And what do you think of the world's most advanced operating system being unable to do some of the simplest things?
 
If one method takes one step to accomplish something desirable while another method takes two, which is better?

And what do you think of the world's most advanced operating system being unable to do some of the simplest things?

Except its not that straightforward unless you suffer tunnel vision. What you're trying to accomplish as a geek is different from what average Joe Shmo wants to accomplish.

Joe Shmo wants to launch an app, interact with it...maybe share info from that app with iCloud, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. And then close it when done.

Geeks on the other hand want to launch an app, interact with it, re-arrange information in that app to a different layout or format, move data from said app to several other apps and/or cloud services. They also want that app to stay alive and keep drawing a feed of information at intervals once they close it and switch off their device, AND they want a quick shortcut to that app anywhere they are in the OS etc

To enable these you need options, options, and more options. When Joe Shmo sees these options he thinks "erm...how do i...???"

Joe Shmo wants simple and automated whilst the Geek wants a more manual, fine-grained control.

iOS has the basics covered for the more simple users. The "simplest of things" you're talking about are outside the range of those users. Hence you're outside of Apple's demographic. This is highlighted by the fact that you mentioned jailbreaking which no average consumer will ever do or even inquire about. Because the stock system is more than enough for them to accomplish tasks.

I'm not saying iOS is perfect. As a geek i see its flaws. But i have friends who can't even fathom what these flaws are because the mentality and style of usage is vastly different.
 
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I love how I read Android users posting, "Big deal Apple made the iPhone 5 thinner, how innovative." Then one of the first things I'm reading about why people love the S4 is because.....It's so thin!
 
Except its not that straightforward unless you suffer tunnel vision. What you're trying to accomplish as a geek is different from what average Joe Shmo wants to accomplish.

Joe Shmo wants to launch an app, interact with it...maybe share info from that app with iCloud, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. And then close it when done.

Geeks on the other hand want to launch an app, interact with it, re-arrange information in that app to a different layout or format, move data from said to several other apps and cloud services, and also want that app to stay alive and keep drawing a feed of information at intervals once they close it and switch off their device AND they want a quick shortcut to that app anywhere they are in the OS etc

To enable these you need options, options, and more options. When Joe Shmo sees these options he thinks "erm...how do i...???"

Joe Shmo wants simple and automated whilst the Geek wants a more manual, fine-grained control.

iOS has the basics covered for the more simple users. The "simplest of things" you're talking about are outside the range of those users. Hence you're outside of Apple's demographic. This is highlighted by the fact that you mentioned jailbreaking which no average consumer will ever do or even inquire about. Because the stock system is more than enough for them to accomplish tasks.

I'm not saying iOS is perfect. As a geek i see its flaws. But i have friends who can't even fathom what these flaws are because the mentality and style of usage is vastly different.

+1 :) sometimes people forget that.
 
I love how I read Android users posting, "Big deal Apple made the iPhone 5 thinner, how innovative." Then one of the first things I'm reading about why people love the S4 is because.....It's so thin!

I don't see android people praising this lol

I mean they did manage to fit a 2600 mah battery in there vs a 2100 on the gs3 but apple only has a 1400 mah battery,just imagine how long the iphone would last with the gs4s battery!

prolly 4 days
 
I don't see android people praising this lol

I mean they did manage to fit a 2600 mah battery in there vs a 2100 on the gs3 but apple only has a 1400 mah battery,just imagine how long the iphone would last with the gs4s battery!

prolly 4 days

I did not say they were praising it, I'm saying that's in everyones list for reasons to like it, but when the iPhone 5 was brought out it was to thin and light it felt like a toy.
 
I did not say they were praising it, I'm saying that's in everyones list for reasons to like it, but when the iPhone 5 was brought out it was to thin and light it felt like a toy.

the gs3 came out before the iphone 5 and weighed 133 grams and the gs4 weighs 130.

they are saying its innovative because it got a huge battery bump,made it slimmer and at the same time made it lighter and lets not forget a bigger screen.It got upgrades in every aspect of the phone without getting physically bigger

now if the iphone 5s comes out lighter then the 5 and thinner with a 500 mah bigger battery people will say the same for apple.
 
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