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cpnotebook80

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I have seen only the 14" but want to see the 16" also and apple store has line ups yesterday so maybe will go today to see them. I'm worried about my wrist and how far they need to be to get to the keyboard as i noticed that was an issue i had with the prior i9 16" last year. I like the mbp 13 and travel time for my fingers to keyboard and maybe thats just me.

Also not forgetting the sharp edges of the i9 16" that left marks on my arms when I was resting on it and typing when on couch or in bed sometimes. Oh well.
 

zarathu

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I upgraded from a late 2013. They are almost identical in size, almost the same weight. So no.
 
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Hammie

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Even though I have the 14", I am still debating my choice.

I think I will stick out the 14" but I really did not think the 16" was that big when I saw it in person.

My Apple history has been the following (I just realized that I had been on a 3 year cycle... interesting):

- 2009 Mac Mini w/ 15" external monitor
- 2010 17" MacBook Pro
- 2013 13" MacBook Pro
- 2016 15" MacBook Pro
- 2019 13" MacBook Air
- 2021 14" MacBook Pro

I stopped using the 15" MBP and 13" MBA due to the butterfly keyboards being total crap. I missed out on the return periods for each and never bothered selling them. I traded them in towards the new 14" MBP.

I have mostly been using the 2013 13" MBP because of the keyboard. Yes, it is slow at times, but the footprint and weight are almost 100% the same as the new 14" MBP. Even the ports are almost 100% identical. :)

I always had a Windows desktop that I used at home for work with dual monitors. I have been using my 14" MBP with my dual monitors and am now considering selling my maxed out Windows machine -- i9-9990K, GeForce 1080 FTW, 64GB memory, dual m.2 SSDs, etc... This 14" with dual monitors is doing everything I did on my windows machine with ease.

My reason for still considering the 16" is when traveling. My wife and I love to go camping in our camper. When traveling, I still need to work, so the larger screen would benefit me. However, the footprint might be too big at time when working remote.

Dang it... I hate having first world problems. LOL
 

mattlukea

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Is the 16” as comfortable to use around the house on your lap, etc as the 14” would be? I don’t bring my MacBook out of the house much, a flight once or twice a year and trips but majority of the time is in the house. Tempted by the 16” this time.
 

kp98077

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Is the 16” as comfortable to use around the house on your lap, etc as the 14” would be? I don’t bring my MacBook out of the house much, a flight once or twice a year and trips but majority of the time is in the house. Tempted by the 16” this time.
Lap takes a little getting used took but then again given its size it seems perfectly proportioned! And on a desk it’s more than perfect. No issues carrying it around house of course. 14 is nice too just a little small
 

refect

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I'm in the opposite boat. I just sold a 27 inch iMac and planning on picking up a MBP today. I'm pretty sure the base 14 inch would be plenty powerful enough to meet my needs, I'm just worried that it will seem incredibly small.
 

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I have seen only the 14" but want to see the 16" also and apple store has line ups yesterday so maybe will go today to see them. I'm worried about my wrist and how far they need to be to get to the keyboard as i noticed that was an issue i had with the prior i9 16" last year. I like the mbp 13 and travel time for my fingers to keyboard and maybe thats just me.

Also not forgetting the sharp edges of the i9 16" that left marks on my arms when I was resting on it and typing when on couch or in bed sometimes. Oh well.
I tested the new 16 for a few days and can confirm that my wrists were pressed against the sharp front edge while typing. I adjusted my ergonomics and made sure my wrists and forearms were parallel with the desk however I think the thicker chassis is what creates this weird angle which forces your wrists to press against the edge. No go for me.
 

cpnotebook80

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Feb 4, 2007
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I tested the new 16 for a few days and can confirm that my wrists were pressed against the sharp front edge while typing. I adjusted my ergonomics and made sure my wrists and forearms were parallel with the desk however I think the thicker chassis is what creates this weird angle which forces your wrists to press against the edge. No go for me.
Ah shucks. thanks for this! I'm 5'7 and maybe short arms lol..who knows but yea the 14" might be way to go and need some time at the store with it.
 

beardev

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Is the 16” as comfortable to use around the house on your lap, etc as the 14” would be? I don’t bring my MacBook out of the house much, a flight once or twice a year and trips but majority of the time is in the house. Tempted by the 16” this time.
I might be the odd one out that finds the 16" more comfortable to use in these circumstances. I had a 13" m1 and found that to use it in my lap securely I'd have to have my legs closer together than I find personally comfortable.
 

kp98077

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I might be the odd one out that finds the 16" more comfortable to use in these circumstances. I had a 13" m1 and found that to use it in my lap securely I'd have to have my legs closer together than I find personally comfortable.
no I can see that, I was surprised by this also, seemed more comfortable to use at home and coffee shops VERY surprisingly!
 

gomakoto

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Oct 24, 2021
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I tested the new 16 for a few days and can confirm that my wrists were pressed against the sharp front edge while typing. I adjusted my ergonomics and made sure my wrists and forearms were parallel with the desk however I think the thicker chassis is what creates this weird angle which forces your wrists to press against the edge. No go for me.

Ah shucks. thanks for this! I'm 5'7 and maybe short arms lol..who knows but yea the 14" might be way to go and need some time at the store with it.
I’m the opposite! Went to the store and my wrists dig into the 14”. The 16” is fine for me. I guess people type differently.

I’ve never used those gel wrist protectors for carpal tunnel though. Always wondered why people got benefit from them. Maybe my wrist angle is much differently.
 

cpnotebook80

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Feb 4, 2007
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I’m the opposite! Went to the store and my wrists dig into the 14”. The 16” is fine for me. I guess people type differently.

I’ve never used those gel wrist protectors for carpal tunnel though. Always wondered why people got benefit from them. Maybe my wrist angle is much differently.
I actually was in best-buy and this time they had both 16 and 14" on the table. OMG the screen is a beauty when up close esp on the 16". I tested my reach and yea the 16" is a bit long for me but 14" seems ok. Currently on 13" mbp and my wrists are resting on the grey sides of the trackpad and seems fine.
 

nylon

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Oct 26, 2004
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I've always been partial to the 15" machines. My current machine is a 2016 15.4" MacBook Pro (1st gen Touch Bar). I've been testing both the new 14" and 16" machines and this is first time I feel that the 16" is just way too bulky (wight & size) for comfortable day to day portable use. Having used both new machines alongside my old machine I'm actually shocked at the design direction they chose with the 16" machine. The 14" design makes sense to me. Big regression on the 16" IMO. I just posted another thread prior to reading this one on why, given the emphasis on performance per watt, the 16" feels like a significant step back from a physical design perspective.
 
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Lucas Curious

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Hey. I’m currently deciding what new MacBook Pro to upgrade to. I’m upgrading from a 13” Pro 2016 and mainly use my MacBook around the house and only take it out now and again. I had originally thought of the 14” for my needs but I’m really intrigued by the 16” and the larger screen. Anyone who has it, do you find it too big and heavy for everyday use or do you just get used to the size and it’s not a problem? In your opinion is the 14 or 16” a worthy upgrade from an older 13”? Thank you
if mainly around the house, go for the 16
 

rkulpajr

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I used to have the 16" MBP and found that too large to carry around comfortably, but then I prefer smaller laptops. I switched to the 13" Pro and now the 14" Pro Max, and it's the ideal size for me personally. The new 16" is larger and heavier than the old one, so I'm sure for me this would be far too large. It is more for use in a desktop situation, I feel, than in a portable setting where you're using it on your lap.

You can always return the laptop to Apple no questions asked within 10 or 14 days (I forget, and it might depend on your location). The only trouble is getting hold of the specific model you are interested in, and the mechanics of actually returning it and waiting for the refund to the processed. It is a lot of money after all
Actually they just announced their holiday return window. If you purchase now you have until after the new year to return it. You could ”test drive” it for 30-45 days to see how you like it and then return it if you decide it is too big.

I had a 16 inch before and traded it in for a 14 inch. I did not like to screen. After using 15 and 16 inch screens I found it difficult to not have the screen real estate. I was lucky and the 16 inch I wanted popped up in the local  store and I snagged it up.
 

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I had my for an hour, before I had to return it (backlight didn't work). So now, while I'm waiting for a new on in December - I can give you just my initial impression and it was that it was more heavy than my 2016 MBP, but didn't seem larger at all.

My wife has a 2013 MBP and this new 16" is smaller than that one and possibly even lighter.

If you used a 15" or 16" MBP in the past 9 years, this is pretty much the same. For me, it's still a very portable computer, nothing like 13/14" ones, but still very manageable.
May I ask you what u mean exactly by unworking backlight ? I want to be aware of potential defects if I buy one ,in order to be able to return it on time
 

SRQrws

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I have both models of the new MBPs, 14 and 16. First off, I disagree with all the comments about the new designs being chunky, too thick, boxy, etc. I like the new design and form factor. The 16 is within a tenth of an inch in all dimensions of its predecessor. Yes, it's a bit heavier but it's a big laptop! My two cents: If you will be using the laptop primarily at a desk or table, and you need a larger display, the 16 is great. If you are more mobile and/or you typically use the laptop in the clamshell mode hooked up to external display(s), then I'd recommend the 14. Or you can be a dumb**s like me and get both ?
 

aevan

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May I ask you what u mean exactly by unworking backlight ? I want to be aware of potential defects if I buy one ,in order to be able to return it on time

Don’t worry, you’d knew if you saw this - screen literally didn’t turn on. You could barely see the apple logo during boot (and by barely, I mean like a feint blob of light) and that’s it.

I took it back and they said it was a non-functional backlight.

Now I have to wait early January :(
 

gomakoto

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Oct 24, 2021
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Don’t worry, you’d knew if you saw this - screen literally didn’t turn on. You could barely see the apple logo during boot (and by barely, I mean like a feint blob of light) and that’s it.

I took it back and they said it was a non-functional backlight.

Now I have to wait early January :(
I think if you got a defect you should be bumped up in your place in line. Not fair you gotta wait until January.
 

donster28

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I have both models of the new MBPs, 14 and 16. First off, I disagree with all the comments about the new designs being chunky, too thick, boxy, etc. I like the new design and form factor. The 16 is within a tenth of an inch in all dimensions of its predecessor. Yes, it's a bit heavier but it's a big laptop! My two cents: If you will be using the laptop primarily at a desk or table, and you need a larger display, the 16 is great. If you are more mobile and/or you typically use the laptop in the clamshell mode hooked up to external display(s), then I'd recommend the 14. Or you can be a dumb**s like me and get both
I agree. I originally ordered the 14" but when I saw it in store beside a 16", I immediately changed my mind. Coming from a 15", the 16" is a no brainer for me. It just feels right.

The thicker and heavier design of the new ones was a concern at first, but man, looking at my 16" every morning, with its lid still closed, is a sight to see. This thicker design is actually quite gorgeous. The slightly enlarged Apple logo on it is the icing on the cake.
 
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I have seen only the 14" but want to see the 16" also and apple store has line ups yesterday so maybe will go today to see them. I'm worried about my wrist and how far they need to be to get to the keyboard as i noticed that was an issue i had with the prior i9 16" last year. I like the mbp 13 and travel time for my fingers to keyboard and maybe thats just me.

Also not forgetting the sharp edges of the i9 16" that left marks on my arms when I was resting on it and typing when on couch or in bed sometimes. Oh well.
Ikr ? Even in stores when I tried the 16 it was very unergonomic .I mean I love the giant trackpad for moving files ans stuff around ,and tbh the new mb14's trackpad is actually smaller than previous gen's 13 ...yet I think it's better than having to fold my wrist to use the 16 trackpad and keyboard

As for sharp edges,well,I think you gonna hate both of the new MBP haha.they are high and sharp.i cannot tell however if the 14 is better or worse than the 16 in that aspect(since it will affect different part of your arm,the 14 being close to the wrist/hand)
Anyone to help?
 

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Don’t worry, you’d knew if you saw this - screen literally didn’t turn on. You could barely see the apple logo during boot (and by barely, I mean like a feint blob of light) and that’s it.

I took it back and they said it was a non-functional backlight.

Now I have to wait early January :(
Thanks buddy.

Wow ,how in the holly hell did this pass QA? I mean they have to check the device before sending in,and with such prices they better check thoroughly

Perhaps should u ask for another base unit or sth during your waiting ?
 

bsmr

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I tested the new 16 for a few days and can confirm that my wrists were pressed against the sharp front edge while typing. I adjusted my ergonomics and made sure my wrists and forearms were parallel with the desk however I think the thicker chassis is what creates this weird angle which forces your wrists to press against the edge. No go for me.
But with the 14" it wouldn't be any better. You even feel the edge more than on 16" because of it's smaller chassis.
 
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