Zaft
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Yup but its a welcome change. It seems all scrolling has been unified around IOS.
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Hes on my ignore list so I dont see that nonsense.
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I7guy
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And by the same token, it's great and faster for me and other posters. The bottom line, there are different experiences of which none represents the absolute "truth" in the matter.
S.B.G
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I have a 6s and now that it has iOS 11 I am seeing noticeable slowness in some apps and other functions, like Touch ID coming up quickly compared to the other day with iOS 10.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
So now you are throwing insults?
Prove that ios 11 is "slower" by any meaningful statistical insight on a 5s than IOS 10.
Speaking strictly in qualitative terms, using iOS 11 on an iPhone 5S doesn't feel bad. You notice the impact of background tasks more than you used to—updating apps or downloading a bunch of music in the background makes the whole phone feel sluggish
The iPhone 5S is slower with iOS 11, sure, but it's not as slow as the iPhone 4S was with iOS 8 or 9, or even as slow as the iPhone 5 is with iOS 10 most of the time
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Proven above
S.B.G
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I7guy
macrumors Westmere
I don't have an issue with touch id any of the apps. However, 3DT does experience some odd stuttering that I'm sure will be fixed with some future update. There also are odd stutters in places I would have bet apple would fixed at this point, given they existed in the last few releases.
Most of ios 11 is very smooth on my 6s and I notice no real lagging or stutter other than what I mentioned. The change in the inertial scrolling in Safari is welcome. Honesty, I'm really pleasantly surprised at the performance of ios 11 on my 5s.
Zaft
macrumors 601
I would not expect a phone from 2013 to be as fast but I dont get the 7 Plus.
Speaking strictly in qualitative terms, using iOS 11 on an iPhone 5S doesn't feel bad. You notice the impact of background tasks more than you used to—updating apps or downloading a bunch of music in the background makes the whole phone feel sluggish
The iPhone 5S is slower with iOS 11, sure, but it's not as slow as the iPhone 4S was with iOS 8 or 9, or even as slow as the iPhone 5 is with iOS 10 most of the time
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Proven above
This has been happening for the last 3 releases.
Annoying having to wait until .2 release to have the smoothness back from the previous version.
We always seem to spend the lions share of our time on any iOS version on any phone tolerating stutters. Supposedly the 7 also had stutters on closing apps when it launched on iOS 10 and it took months till it got fixed although coming from an iPhone 6 I didn't notice any. We finally got a perfect iOS 10.3.3 only for it to be ruined later with 11.0 and by the time Apple reaches 11.3.3 I will be on a new phone running iOS 12 and rinse and repeat. I wish we could turn off the animations or customise the home button delay like on Android. If you disable animations on Android those stutters will never bother you
I find the stutter to irritate me twice as more on an newer iPad Pro 12.9 2017 as it has a higher refresh rate and even a small drop in frames is noticeable. I will keep that on iOS 10 till I get a fast iOS on my iPhone.
What are the chances hey, that they would call you Dafty Duck as well.
I have no clue what the chances are, but I've been called worse things than Dafty Duck!
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
People have all different ways of measuring faster. I would define faster as if safari javascript benchmarks in ios 11 are faster than ios 10. Or if editing a movie in imovie is faster than ios 11 than ios 10. Opening and closing apps are not indicative of getting work done. How much time to compose a 10,000 word email on your device of choice. The features and functions are what make one version faster than another, not serial opening and closing of apps. Or how fast does it take to get to the bottom of a long page in safari on ios 11 vs ios 10? Whatever you feel is your personal benchmark of what constitutes "faster", is all well and good.
And as a side note, with apple implementing new privacy in Safari in IOS 11, it is now by go to browser.
I just want the stutters gone including the home button lag. I am getting some random stutters when I open Safari sometimes and other apps too. Load times have worsened no doubt about it.
Battery life is also not stellar
icemanbrfc
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deany
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iPhone 6 Sept 2014, wont be updating to iOS 11 as last 12 months device has slowed down dramatically.
Apple have a "six year rule" with macOS but with iOS I think its 24 months before apple's iOS team say "right time to increase revenue, and slow down existing devices"
I know some will say "ah but you need better hardware for lastest iOS" my arguement is the iPhone 6 is no slouch, chip wise, and should last 5 years without slow down.
Apple just maximising profit.
Apple have a "six year rule" with macOS but with iOS I think its 24 months before apple's iOS team say "right time to increase revenue, and slow down existing devices"
I know some will say "ah but you need better hardware for lastest iOS" my arguement is the iPhone 6 is no slouch, chip wise, and should last 5 years without slow down.
Apple just maximising profit.
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Zaft
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The Game 161
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I certainly think IOS 11 battery life is worse. Not by a massive amount but enough where I needed to charge at 7pm where normally I don’t need to wait till at least 9-10.
It starts dropping 1% every 2 minutes of use once it gets below 50. I only get 7 hours of use out of my 7 Plus.
Puddled
macrumors 6502a
Just do a full reset and set up from scratch (Not restore or backup)
Android, IOS. Windows are all just PC's and they get bogged down after a while.
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See my post above
That is unfortunate. More so in the case of Note 8. O was already released. So ideally, Note 8 should get P and Q.
Anyway, as long as Apple continues to update their phones for 4 years, I don't think I can ever convince myself to pay an Android flagship the same kind of money I would pay for an iPhone.
Also, the last update to my Note 5 has left it all ragged'y . It is a total lag fest on my Note 5.
You are right. This has happened to me in my iPhone 3 and 4 days. It will be interesting to see how long the 2GB RAM phones last. SE and 6S onwards.
Puddled
macrumors 6502a
This topic is done and beaten to death every time android or apple release a major OS revision.
However, i do think its misleading and in the case of android, downright wrong.
The reason i left Apple was the software changes. IOS updates crippled my (3GS) iphone and didn't offer all of the updated software to the older phones So IOS isn't perfect. My partner simply refuses to update her Iphone regardless. She's has experience of the Lag and issues.
This idea that Iphones get updates longer than android isn't completely true either. Yes, Most android phone has two full updates, but Android has shifted most of the core functionality to GPS and security patches. These carry on much longer than the two years.
and what of the updates? Android has pretty much all the functionality it can give. There is no update required to give the user cut and paste or drag and drop. Much of the stuff apple update can be done on android using a apk. these days, for IOS and Android, updates are just window dressing.
Updates on IOS are used as a blazing beacon by apple fans to kick android but in reality, i don't think there is much in it.
How Android updates is a different matter and is a mess and google should clean the process up properly. I won't hold breath on that. As a software company, they seem to be getting worse and worse.
For the note 5, do a full factory reset, set up as new (No recovery or backups) and clear your cache. Shoudl be back to being zippy 🙂
I think you have just right!
My iPhone 6 is with iOS 11 (clean installation with DFU mode) slow, laggy and buggy. This is a no go for me because I cannot / don't want update anymore. But then for what? I haven't noticed *must have* features in iOS 11 compared to iOS 10. At this point I would prefer Android which I can modify as I want and where the apps and secure patches were updated for a long time. A new iPhone with the same software and estetic where I would spend 300€ for the iPhone 7 over my iPhone 6 is NOT an option for me.
Apple should offer the above ability to downgrade a particular device to any OS like Google on Nexus devices. I personally don’t see what sort of huge functionality was added since iOS 8 which makes iPhone 6 as slow as a Moto G in just 2 years. It takes 2 seconds to open a lightweight menu like settings.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere