Do you qualify to use iTunes Match?

Discussion in 'Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, Apple Services' started by r2shyyou, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. r2shyyou macrumors 68000


    Oct 3, 2010
    Paris, France

    While it's no secret that there is a 25,000 song "match" limit with iTunes Match, what I didn't realize until just recently is that the limit applies not only to how many songs iTunes Match will "match" but also to how many songs your library can contain in order to qualify to use iTunes Match.

    Essentially, if your library has more than 25,000 songs in it, you will not be able to use iTunes Match to "match" even one single song.

    Appalled by this inability to selectively choose 25,000 songs from my library to "match" to iTunes Match, I emailed new Apple CEO Tim Cook and received the following response from a member of his team:

    Dissapointing response, to say the least. I was hoping we'd be able to drag & drop selected songs over to iTunes Match much like you can do with playlists.

    However, I understand this is a new service with likely many tweaks and improvements yet to be made, based on both internal and user feedback, so it looks like those of us with large music libraries will just have to wait a little longer to use the service...unless there is a relatively easy way to split into two one's library, with a portion of it housed locally on your machine and the rest of it housed on, say, an external hard drive. Anyone have any experience with this?
  2. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem


    Feb 19, 2005
    So you e-mailed Tim Cook and somehow thought all would be made right in your world on the spot? Interesting.

    25k is a lot, I wonder how many people have that much or more. I don't think I do.
  3. SandboxGeneral Moderator emeritus


    Sep 8, 2010
    25,000 songs :eek: That's a lot of music.

    I only have a fraction of that amount.

  4. Dwalls90 macrumors 601


    Feb 5, 2009
    I have a LOT and I still have just under 10K. I could never imagine having over double that amount for at least a few years away.

    And I'm sure you own $25,000+ (probably more like $30,000!) worth of music legally owned?
  5. dukebound85 macrumors P6


    Jul 17, 2005
    5045 feet above sea level
    why do you assume a dollar a song?

    i buy used cds
  6. arkitect macrumors 603


    Sep 5, 2005
    Bath, United Kingdom
    I don't know why people find 25K+ a lot of "songs" or tracks or suspicious.

    I have 29,000+ in my iTunes library.

    But then again I am 47 years old and have been collecting music since the early '70s…

    Steve Jobs didn't invent music with the creation of iTunes… it's been around a while. Some of my tracks came from shellac 78s (ask your grandparents). ;)

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  7. Imola Ghost macrumors 65816

    Mar 21, 2009
    I have about 26k songs in my library. I'm currently re-encoding all of them to Apple Lossless using dbPoweramp.

    I know people that have a lot more than the OP or myself. So yes, there a lot of people that have over 25k songs.
  8. CmdrLaForge macrumors 601


    Feb 26, 2003
    around the world
    Anyone knows if those matched songs that I didn't purchase through the iTunes Store will be downloaded to my Mac ?
  9. cluthz macrumors 68040


    Jun 15, 2004
    Are you re-encoding them from acc/mp3 files, or are you re-ripping them?
    Re-encoding files does make the quality worse, even if you go from 64 kbps mp3 to lossless.

    I also have 26960 files in my library, all legal, but I have many audiobooks which often contains over 100 files (total of 7014 files). I wonder if you could exclude those from match and get under the limit.
  10. TMRaven macrumors 68020


    Nov 5, 2009
    I wonder how up-front and blunt of a 3 word reply he would have received if Steve Jobs were still CEO and he personally replied.

    And yeah, if you're not reripping, there's no magical way go transcode a lower bitrate song into lossless, all you're doing is wasting space.
  11. curtisinoc macrumors 6502

    Mar 13, 2011
    Southern California
    I was wondering about this also . . . . I have a library over 30,000 songs. Wanted to use iTunes Match, but guess I may be out of luck until future updates/improvements. :(
  12. jhwalker macrumors regular

    May 31, 2011
    Same here . . .

    I have about 44k tracks that were not purchased from iTunes (ripped from CDs, purchased from other services, etc.), so guess I won't be able to use Match at all :(
  13. adbe macrumors 6502a

    Jul 11, 2008
    Yes, but for families, sharing one iTunes account, the jump from 10K+ to 20K+ is instant.



    I've got more than a few of those too. I'm debating just crunching them into one long audio track.
  14. Nermal Moderator


    Staff Member

    Dec 7, 2002
    New Zealand
    Re-encoding between lossy formats will make the quality worse, but going to lossless will just make the file larger with no change in quality.
  15. msugarpants macrumors member

    Jan 4, 2005
    New itunes library

    Make a new library by holding option while opening itunes. Then you can reimport...or share (not sure exactly how) from your other library. Note, you cannot have two libraries open at may corrupt files. But I have 110,000 songs. Gonna pick out my 4 and 5 star tunes. Yes. you read that number correctly.
  16. tido2012 macrumors regular

    Jul 20, 2010
    Wow, I thought I had a lot of music (< 2k). I just got owned! :eek:
  17. Macs In LA macrumors newbie

    Sep 22, 2008
    92,000 Songs. iTunes Match won't work for me. Cr*p.

    I have 92,000 songs. Years ago I had 7,000 CDs. I have purchased about 4,000 songs from iTunes and Amazon over the years. I work in Media and have an impressive classical collection on top of a pretty thorough pop/rock music selection from 1977 or so on.

    I have no idea how I will parse this down to sub-25K non-iTunes songs before it launches.

    No deletion, but of course I need to make a whole new iTunes Library for the Match to work.

    What are the chances that Match will open up to more than the 25K limit?
  18. mactmaster macrumors 6502

    Jun 16, 2010
    I believe this is merely an arbitrary limitation due to the licensing deal Apple made with the record labels. It was likely a compromise on Apple side.

    Apple will need to go back and make a new deal with the labels to enable larger libraries. Also, larger libraries will probably have a higher subscription fee.

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