iPhone XS Max Do you really think the XS display looks nicer than the plus series display?

Aston441

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I was in Best Buy today to test drive some iPad keyboards for my new iPad.

They had the Xs XsM and Xr out on display so I whipped out my trusty old 6s+ just to do a quick display comparison...


Seriously, I'm not trying to troll.

But I could see visible pixels on the Xs/Xm/Xr displays and as usual cannot see them on the plus. The plus font outlines were visibly sharper. I really wasn't "seeing things."

What's going on here? Is this because X phones are using pentile displays?
 

Aston441

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It's because Apple OLED screens suck and the XR screen res is 326 ppi.
What phones have better OLED displays?

It seems Apple should just work on scaling up the nicer plus LCD screens for the next phone generation.
 

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What's going on here? Is this because X phones are using pentile displays?
Yes.

5.5" Plus series will be sharper than 5.8" X series. This is because the Plus has nearly 15% more subpixels.

The Max should match the Plus in sharpness if not exceed it based on subpixel count.
 

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The Plus phones have the highest effective PPI of any Apple phone ever released.

The XS and XS Max are supposed to be 458 PPI, but because of the pentile layout, they are missing a ton of subpixels. Depending on math, people have calculated the effective PPI to be somewhere ranging from ~320-340. Its basically the same as the XR, if you want to get technical.

The 401 PPI LCDs on the Plus have all their subpixels, and technically are the sharpest displays out.

I had an 8 plus and now have an XR. There are other things about the XR screen I like much better than the plus, and the quality of the screen itself I'd say is much better. There's a depth and contrast to colors that is much better than any plus phone. 8+ is closest, but XR definitely has the best LCD of any iPhone (albeit slightly lower PPI).
 

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Why? They’re using Samsung OLED panels, which are some of the best in the industry. In terms of colors, blacks, brightness and overall calibration, I think Apples OLED panels are superb.
I think Samsung gives Apple the B grade panels.

I would
 

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Specifically,Why do you think they are ‘B Grade Panels’? From my readings, that doesn’t seem to be the consensus on here or even those outside this tech forum.
Heres why, all can be found in giant threads on this forum:

-Color shifting. Apples OLED does it in a much more pronounced way
-Yellow tints/Calibrations. More Samsung phones have correct neutral calibrations. Many Apple OLEDs have overly yellow (though some good ones exist, its harder to get one)

Those are the main ones. Both have PWM flickering, burn in worries, and pentile layouts.

OLED is a dumpster fire.
 

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Heres why, all can be found in giant threads on this forum:

-Color shifting. Apples OLED does it in a much more pronounced way
-Yellow tints/Calibrations. More Samsung phones have correct neutral calibrations. Many Apple OLEDs have overly yellow (though some good ones exist, its harder to get one)

Those are the main ones. Both have PWM flickering, burn in worries, and pentile layouts.

OLED is a dumpster fire.
All of which I have never experienced with my XS Max, as well as hundreds of other members who have perfectly operable OLED iPhones. Can I make the opposing argument that everything you’re posting is more limited on a small minority’s on a tech forum that actually is not affecting everyone else’s experiences as you’re making it appear.
 

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In real life usage, it's barely noticeable, because nobody is paying that much attention. Inspect your iPad/iPad Pro screen and you'll notice it's even more pixellated than the XR. It's pixel density is lower, after all. But I bet you've never noticed that before.
 

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I don’t know what you were looking at. I consider the plus to be inferior in quality and there’s no way I’m seeing pixels on the XSM. The outlines are blurrier on plus, Side by side my XSM is far superior than the plus. I could never go back.
 

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I was in Best Buy today to test drive some iPad keyboards for my new iPad.

They had the Xs XsM and Xr out on display so I whipped out my trusty old 6s+ just to do a quick display comparison...


Seriously, I'm not trying to troll.

But I could see visible pixels on the Xs/Xm/Xr displays and as usual cannot see them on the plus. The plus font outlines were visibly sharper. I really wasn't "seeing things."

What's going on here? Is this because X phones are using pentile displays?
Comparing my wife's 7 Plus to my Max its obvious which is clearer. Not sure what's happening in your case.
The iPhone 7 Plus display is so dull in comparison.
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In real life usage, it's barely noticeable, because nobody is paying that much attention. Inspect your iPad/iPad Pro screen and you'll notice it's even more pixellated than the XR. It's pixel density is lower, after all. But I bet you've never noticed that before.
An iPad is held farther away then a phone.
 
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In real life usage, it's barely noticeable, because nobody is paying that much attention. Inspect your iPad/iPad Pro screen and you'll notice it's even more pixellated than the XR. It's pixel density is lower, after all. But I bet you've never noticed that before.

Oh I totally notice the big pixels on my new iPad.

But since it's the best available, I accept that. I knew what I was getting going in.

But if I needed to replace my 6s+ today, I'm not sure what I'd get. I'd probably end up with an 8+, just because the screen looks SO much nicer to me.
 
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I am getting really confused. I saw an XS at the box store and the the display looked fantastic on the iMessage app, great contrast, sharp text, white background as compared to the XR next to it. Then today I compared my 6S to a coworker's XS on the iMessage app (similar brightness settings, Tru Color both on and off on the XS) and the XS was dim, yellow and with comparatively fuzzy text. Are these OLEDs that variable? I was going to order something direct from Apple but not sure I will without seeing it in person first. Maybe I'll visit my local Apple store even though it isn't very convenient.
 
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Specifically,Why do you think they are ‘B Grade Panels’? From my readings, that doesn’t seem to be the consensus on here or even those outside this tech forum.
He’s talking out his back hole. I have a Samsung Note 9 and overall the screen on the max is actually better, even displaymate confirmed it. Apple spent more time and effort calibrating it. I’d take everything i read on here that bashes OLED with a pinch of salt.
 

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He’s talking out his back hole. I have a Samsung Note 9 and overall the screen on the max is actually better, even displaymate confirmed it. Apple spent more time and effort calibrating it. I’d take everything i read on here that bashes OLED with a pinch of salt.
He’s just trolling, ignore the trolls and they will go away.
 

Aston441

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I am getting really confused. I saw an XS at the box store and the the display looked fantastic on the iMessage app, great contrast, sharp text, white background as compared to the XR next to it. Then today I compared my 6S to a coworker's XS on the iMessage app (similar brightness settings, Tru Color both on and off on the XS) and the XS was dim, yellow and with comparatively fuzzy text. Are these OLEDs that variable? I was going to order something direct from Apple but not sure I will without seeing it in person first. Maybe I'll visit my local Apple store even though it isn't very convenient.

That's a very interesting observation.

The display unit XsM at the Best Buy I saw was also very yellow and fuzzy compared to my plus.

I also noticed the display units were set to screen "always on" maybe that had something to do with it? I can't imagine the screens burning in after just a few weeks though?
 

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I also noticed the display units were set to screen "always on" maybe that had something to do with it? I can't imagine the screens burning in after just a few weeks though?
The phones in my local Apple store all had a screensaver turned on to prevent burn in. Are you sure that wasn’t the case with the phones you were looking at?

Btw: The only phone i owned with “burn in” was a Nexus 6. After two years of heavy usage you could see the status and navigation bar even when viewing full screen content.
 

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That's a very interesting observation.

The display unit XsM at the Best Buy I saw was also very yellow and fuzzy compared to my plus.

I also noticed the display units were set to screen "always on" maybe that had something to do with it? I can't imagine the screens burning in after just a few weeks though?
If anything the max especially my own has better whites against any apple lcd panel i have seen.
 

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I was in Best Buy today to test drive some iPad keyboards for my new iPad.

They had the Xs XsM and Xr out on display so I whipped out my trusty old 6s+ just to do a quick display comparison...


Seriously, I'm not trying to troll.

But I could see visible pixels on the Xs/Xm/Xr displays and as usual cannot see them on the plus. The plus font outlines were visibly sharper. I really wasn't "seeing things."

What's going on here? Is this because X phones are using pentile displays?
I did the same thing. Compared my 6S+ to the XS max and XR and found the exact opposite. That the 2 new phones looked better and when it came to movies the XR was better than the 6S+ (Max was best).

My eyes aren't amazing, but even so, the colours on both new phones is so much better than the 6S+ that there really is no comparison in that regard.
 

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I did the same thing. Compared my 6S+ to the XS max and XR and found the exact opposite. That the 2 new phones looked better and when it came to movies the XR was better than the 6S+ (Max was best).

My eyes aren't amazing, but even so, the colours on both new phones is so much better than the 6S+ that there really is no comparison in that regard.
Exactly! It’s best to ignore them posts. As one poster said above it’s clearly trolling. I haven’t seen any yellowing on the apple oleds full stop.
 

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It's because Apple OLED screens suck and the XR screen res is 326 ppi.
No 326 is the magic number and
I did the same thing. Compared my 6S+ to the XS max and XR and found the exact opposite. That the 2 new phones looked better and when it came to movies the XR was better than the 6S+ (Max was best).

My eyes aren't amazing, but even so, the colours on both new phones is so much better than the 6S+ that there really is no comparison in that regard.
makes sense as the Xr has the wide colour gamut but the 6S+ doesn’t have it.