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Do you think future MacBook Pro's drop Touch ID in favor of Face ID?
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Seriously, i wouldnt use it and wouldnt want to pay extra to get a useless feature...
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Seriously, i wouldnt use it and wouldnt want to pay extra to get a useless feature...
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Yes I do, as long as Face ID stands the test of time and is as good as advertised. I doubt we'll see it before the next major MBP refresh, though. That could be 3-4 years out.
Of course they'll eventually bring it to the Mac line, but it'll need some serious shrinking down first. There isn't enough room on the MBP to fit it at the moment, however it could fit within the iMac shell (Although cost becomes an issue).
So in time it'll obviously make its way across once the technology is scaled down and costs shrunk to make it a viable option. These things are much more important on a mobile phone anyway, you have a keyboard in front of you so it only adds a small convenience on a desktop. TouchID is nice but you can live without it, so more of a bonus once the cost is so low it's not an issue to add it. Same with Watch unlock really. FaceID will get there but don't hold your breath for the next 3 years.
So in time it'll obviously make its way across once the technology is scaled down and costs shrunk to make it a viable option. These things are much more important on a mobile phone anyway, you have a keyboard in front of you so it only adds a small convenience on a desktop. TouchID is nice but you can live without it, so more of a bonus once the cost is so low it's not an issue to add it. Same with Watch unlock really. FaceID will get there but don't hold your breath for the next 3 years.
Ok, but vast majority of people do care, so, why even bother to comment?
And you know that based on what peer-reviewed statistical research? None, so why even bother to reply?
I know based on common sense - most people use some form of biometric authentication on their devices, if these devices are capable of supporting it. There are numerous statistical reports that show most people don't use passwords or passcodes on their devices and the rise of biometric security is due to that fact.
Also, everyone will agree that one of the hottest topics of the new iPhone is Face ID, love it or hate it. To put it simply - people care about this stuff. No, I don't have peer-reviewed statistical research. Are you saying you need this research to come to the conclusion that majority of people do care, and that your indifference, while a valid view to have, represents a small minority, especially among tech enthusiasts that visit this forum?
I'm sure it will come to the Mac. IMO, it would have come already but was prioritized for the iPhone. If anything, establishing "Face ID" on the iPhone and then putting it on the Mac will prevent comparisons to Windows Hello. (They implemented Face ID, not copied Hello).
I think it will absolutely come to the laptops at least.
It would be a brilliant way to unlock a MacBook.
It would be a brilliant way to unlock a MacBook.
You'll care when they jack up the price.
FaceID on a MBP would be a show-stopper for me frankly and send me to a windows machine for sure.
Good point on cost!
My perspective was mainly that of privacy, as I've mentioned on other threads. I prefer a password to biometrics because one cannot be compelled to provide a password but can be legally required to unlock a device with a fingerprint or face scan.
I don't give a chit about biometric authentication on my Macs. Well, I guess I'll care if they jack up the price.
I agree with you re privacy although I'm less concerned with being compelled to unlock it, more concerned by the story today that part of the functionality of FaceID will be shared with iOS app developers. Thats well creepy. Imagine google being able to track your eyes and read your facial expression reactions. Imagine a dating webpage could do the same. Nooooooooo thank you
I can bet you some are already doing it in one way or another. In indirect ways, like what is in the center of your screen, scrolling pausing/timing, but still pretty much the same result. You can track emotions by tracking breathing patterns, but I am not sure if anyone is doing that. Anyways, sharing facial expression takes those creepy things to another level
I recall reading there might be a secure enclave in the iMac pro (or there looked to be room for one).
Maybe we’ll see it there first.
I think the form factor is going to be one of the bigger challenges. Unless Apple can give the camera super-wide coverage, or make it a self-pivoting camera that fits inside the very thin display housing, I'm not sure if it will be more convenient than Touch ID or not. Microsoft's implementation on the Surface Pro 4+ has worked well for me when on the right angle, but I always found Touch ID to work better on something that I may be working on while not in the physical view spectrum of the camera (I'm not sure what the existing coverage angle of the IR is?)
Then again, when Touch ID first came out, I would have never believed that Apple could have implemented an older technology with such a new sense of reliability and consistency that so many other Makers failed to achieve for many, many years. And most reports thus far seem to suggest that Face ID is outstanding. So who knows?
Then again, when Touch ID first came out, I would have never believed that Apple could have implemented an older technology with such a new sense of reliability and consistency that so many other Makers failed to achieve for many, many years. And most reports thus far seem to suggest that Face ID is outstanding. So who knows?
It will or it won’t to be honest i’m Happy with anything, password, Touch ID or face ID makes no difference to me really it’s a few seconds tops whatever.