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This.

They will not make the Ivy Bridge rMBP look like stone-age technology, but they will allow perhaps a bit more space on the logic board and some battery improvement since the integrated chips suck a lot less power than the dedicated chips.

I was thinking about this earlier, but I think that bumping the execution unit count from 16 to (whats predicted to be) 40 is going to scale the power draw and heat output at the same rate as the increase in processing power (at the same clock speeds). Haswell is still going to be 22nm, and if it does approach the power of the already very energy efficient kepler card, chances are that power draw will be higher. Add this to the suspected on-package DRAM and the fact that it's on the same die as the CPU; thats a huge amount of heat output under heavy gaming load, maybe leading to throttling.

I agree with you that if they do ditch the dGPU, it will be more of a side grade, with apple simply reducing the BOM and increasing their profit margins.
 
Every computer will become outdated in about 3 years. If your question is whether you can expect the rMBP to adequately perform your tasks for at least 4-5 years, then yes, it will.
 
It depends on whether your purchase or not AC. If you purchase it, then it'll die before 3 years, else it'll die 3 days after AC expires... :D...

Joking aside, the quality of the components used to build computer parts will determine approximately when your computer lasts... ThiS is not something new, it is already happening with electrical appliances; they die on time...
 
I was thinking about this earlier, but I think that bumping the execution unit count from 16 to (whats predicted to be) 40 is going to scale the power draw and heat output at the same rate as the increase in processing power (at the same clock speeds). Haswell is still going to be 22nm, and if it does approach the power of the already very energy efficient kepler card, chances are that power draw will be higher. Add this to the suspected on-package DRAM and the fact that it's on the same die as the CPU; thats a huge amount of heat output under heavy gaming load, maybe leading to throttling.

I agree with you that if they do ditch the dGPU, it will be more of a side grade, with apple simply reducing the BOM and increasing their profit margins.

I buy it. Seems reasonable.
 
I can see it last a good 4 years with 16 GB of RAM. It definitely feels like it's built to last, both externally and internally. No moving parts except for the fans. However, the battery may need to be replaced at that point.
 
I can see it last a good 4 years with 16 GB of RAM. It definitely feels like it's built to last, both externally and internally. No moving parts except for the fans. However, the battery may need to be replaced at that point.

If people need so much RAM then why isn't there a massive wave of people across the Internet complaining about their computers locking up and talking about a class action suit because they were sold a laptop with as little as three GB of RAM?

The so-called need for RAM is a myth created by a deluge of posts like yours.
 
If people need so much RAM then why isn't there a massive wave of people across the Internet complaining about their computers locking up and talking about a class action suit because they were sold a laptop with as little as three GB of RAM?

The so-called need for RAM is a myth created by a deluge of posts like yours.

We're not talking about the needs for right now but in 4-5 years time. RAM needs grow as developers expect more and more to be available. 4 GB was plenty a few years ago, it's just fine now, will be tight next year and so on. I'm not making it up, it's coming from first hand experience.

Of course, it all depends on what you do. Today, you could still be running a hand-optimized Linux kernel with a light graphical environment and get by with 128 MB but we're talking about the ever evolving OS X with your average Joe's array of mouse+GUI-based (read: memory hungry) apps.

So yes, 16 GB may be too much now depending on the usage, but it will surely be tight in 4 years.
 
Unfortunately, five years from now there won't be a better screen available, and very, very few that are as good. Cellphones keep advancing but computer screens - especially laptop screens - keep getting less expensive but also of poorer quality.

That... couldn't be farther from the truth. :rolleyes:
 
Im not sure what condition the battery would be in but usually they need replaced after 3/4 years or 1000 cycles.
 
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