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I don't use it beyond what is required to access the system functions that require it (volume and display brightness) but otherwise its always been kind of pointless to me.
 
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No. Touch typist here... non-specific keys and controls are anathema... IMO, it's a waste of keyboard real estate.
I am with you. While not a touch typist, I never found the touch bar to be doing what i wanted it to be doing and I am also a long time user of UNIX systems and so I am hardwired for keyboard shortcuts and key combinations that look like Masonic handshakes. Hell, some days I can’t be bothered to reach for the mouse.

While I think others find it useful and that is cool, my use case doesn’t benefit from it so I shall not miss it.
 
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Actually design pros use MacBook pros unless you are admitting you are not a design pro.

Bit of an over generalisation there. Most major CAD, computational fluid dynamics, 3D modelling is rendered on Windows hardware. HP and Dell are doing great competing with the MacBook and Mac Pro install base. We sold equipment into a number of the movies houses responsible for the production of the recent memorable animated movies.
 
Actually design pros use MacBook pros unless you are admitting you are not a design pro.
@jwolf6589 A pro, short for professional, makes a living in their chosen profession and they have the skills, patience, drive and a thousand other things to make their profession work for them. They may or may not use a specific tool (e.g MacBook Pro). I make my living writing and architecting software. I’m a pro, a professional. I do use a MacBook Pro, but I could just as easily use a Windows or Linux box. I’ve chosen what I use because it fits tightly with how I like to do things. Every pro chooses their tools carefully, not because “hey I’m a ‘creative’ or a ‘developer’ or whatever so I’m gonna use a Mac”, but because they fit with their flow and needs. I know a ton of creatives and developers who professionally use Windows machines, very successfully I might add.

As an amateur photographer (which doesn’t mean ‘beginner’, by the way), I also choose to use a Mac because it does what I want, how I want, when I want. Except when it doesn’t :). But even then, it’s OK. Eventually we get releases like this week’s. All (mostly) awesome. Amateur can mean ‘incompetent’ in modern usage but that gives me a bar to rise above every day:). None of us use it in that definition for ourselves or others. It usually means that someone pursues it for the love of the subject, which is essentially it’s real definition. It has the same root as ‘amour’ (love affair).
 
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I mean, you have to use it. There’s no function keys. What is this post?

I probably accidentally touch it more than I intentionally do. It’s annoying. Glad it’s gone. The only useful thing is changing your key locations. But you can also do that by popping off key caps and changing the bindings I suppose?
 
Here's my old poll on this
Current results -- Of the 222 folks that took it, 55% like it, 45% don't.
 
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Here's my old poll on this
Current results -- Of the 222 folks that took it, 55% like it, 45% don't.
Seems the results have turned since then.
 
Bit of an over generalisation there. Most major CAD, computational fluid dynamics, 3D modelling is rendered on Windows hardware. HP and Dell are doing great competing with the MacBook and Mac Pro install base. We sold equipment into a number of the movies houses responsible for the production of the recent memorable animated movies.
Yes I know Windows dominates the world. In the business world everyone uses MS Office.
 
Yes I know Windows dominates the world. In the business world everyone uses MS Office.
Yes Office is the Gorilla in the room but the choke hold they have on us has loosened a little with the likes of LibreOffice and other open source options. Also the Google offerings and the way Chromebooks have begun to gain traction from a security perspective means the domination is maybe not complete at this stage. You have to accept though that when it comes to Office productivity, MS are hard to beat.
 
I use it, but it’s not like I’m dependent on it. I’m sad to see it go though… Touch Bar was a great idea on paper…

The idea was adding a utility screen to the base of a laptop. I would rather have seen a screen trackpad. As flexible as a built in iPad, you could have all kinds of information and controls without interfering with the basic mouse operation of the rectangle. And left the row of function keys, functional.
 
I never used one, because I dodged the entire 2016-generation MacBook Pros, with the butterfly keyboards and the lack of MagSafe. But I'm a developer, and I lean into the function keys, which made the TouchBar less attractive.
 
I never used one, because I dodged the entire 2016-generation MacBook Pros, with the butterfly keyboards and the lack of MagSafe. But I'm a developer, and I lean into the function keys, which made the TouchBar less attractive.
I have a 2020 MBP with a scissor keyboard.
 
Do Macbook Pro users use the touch bar? Lots of people on this board are design pro's and I noticed that the Touch Bar previews each photo in the photos app. It also is handy working with video. Why Apple would remove it and not also have it as a option is beyond me. Including a SD card reader and HDMI port like my previous MacBook Pro was a good move, but in my opinion removing the touch bar was a mistake.
Only if I hit it accidentally. In my opinion, it was a mistake to make it standard. Apple are just now correcting that mistake.
 
Touch Bar is great to fill out forms and to skip Amazon Prime ads on movies.
I paid for BettertouchTool and programmed it to my liking with apps in the bar as default but then I got the Full size magic keyboard and assigned the F keys to different programs since I use several at once and need ot skip through them in multiple desktops. Once I learned all the cool keyboard shortcuts, stopped using the Touch Bar. I prefer the full size keyboard and keep clearing new shortcuts so that I can avoid using the trackpad too. Its just faster to do keyboard shortcuts.

But yea if you watch a lot of streaming with ads, you can just skip them in Touch Bar while not being able to do so with trackpad. Also BetterTouch Tool was causing little hangups. I guess the Touch Bar couldn't keep up with the changes so hung up the process. The magic is really in Function Keys and keyboard shortcuts.
 
A professional, by definition, is someone who gets paid. Therefore an amateur is someone who does NOT get paid.

You are correct, there are a handful of paid photographers on this board, but the VAST MAJORITY of us take photos as a hobby and do not get paid for them.

Skill level ≠ Professional
A side note: So someone who was a professional (paid) photographer who is no longer getting paid - does that mean they revert to amateur status? The whole amateur - professional status is so over used. I do disagree, skill level does equal professionalism. Or can we use a new term for a skilled photographer -- master photographer.

I have heard of photographers long past who were supported by wealthy families. And would be considered professional at their craft. Not making a living off their work.

Side note off: back to the Touchbar
 
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The touchbar will be remembered as a failure. A false good idea that should have been canceled early, but for some reason wasn't. This thing was never going to age well. So will the notch, but for other reasons (aesthetics).
 
After 4 years of ownership, I only ever used it when I had to for function key type functionality, or to show off as a novelty when it was new. Great concept, but totally unnecessary and added no value in my workflows.

Tim
 
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