That is correct. But right at this moment, no Thunderbolt3 dock available.The only one that can do charging, 4K30 and USB3 and is compatible with new MBP is caldigit one. it's USB-C dock.
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Dock Wars: OWC Usb C dock vs Thunderbolt 3 dock
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That is correct. But right at this moment, no Thunderbolt3 dock available.The only one that can do charging, 4K30 and USB3 and is compatible with new MBP is caldigit one. it's USB-C dock.
Im waiting for this one. Used to have the Thunderbolt 2 version and it worked really well.
http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F4U095/
http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F4U095/
Same here. Nothing from belkin and OWC yet. No answer no concrete plans, that's why many people gave up on Thunderbolt 3 docks. Plus they are all 300 to 400 dollars docks. I could have the same features by using Apple's 87W charger to one thunderbolt 3 port on my 15" and a Thunderbolt 2 Dock (belkin or caldigit thunderbolt 2 dock with a 29 dollars Apple Thunderbolt convertor) on the other thunderbolt 3 port. total is around than 200 dollars. If you decide to use USB-C dock, OWC's or Caldigit's one, it's only 150 dollars comparing with 400 dollars Thunderobolt 3 dock. If you want even lower, buy all the usb-c dongles. It will not make your MBP looks good, very messy with all the dongles around your MBP.
There is some truth in your post but I want to run a dual-monitor setup (4K @ 60 Hz). Therefore the only proper solution is a Thunderbolt 3 dock.
Or you do it like me:
- 1 port with charger
- 1 port with USB-C-to-DisplayPort cable
- 1 port with USB-C-to-micro-B cable connected to a plain USB 3.0 hub below the desk
Very clean setup, in my opinion:
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So clean that you have to plug-in three cables. And still missing ethernet.
I'm willing to pay 300-400€ for a proper dock. But the wait is really annoying because I was really hyped for the one-cable-rules-them-all solution. One cable and everything is connected. Power, USB, displays, ethernet..
I'm willing to pay 300-400€ for a proper dock. But the wait is really annoying because I was really hyped for the one-cable-rules-them-all solution. One cable and everything is connected. Power, USB, displays, ethernet..
I have been using the OWC TB dock with my iMac for many years now, with no issues. Not to say I haven't had issues with other OWC products, my guardian Maximus will only work with windows now.
Cheers for that. For some reason I thought they added TB3, don't feel so bad about buying the 1st gen
Ethernet is connected to my USB hub via the Apple USB-to-Ethernet dongle. It's the 100Mbit version, not the gigabit version. I'm fine with that, but if you need gigabit, then there's plenty of USB-based solutions for that.
But yeah, you still have to plug in three cables. I don't mind that, but I agree it's less clean than a single-cable dock solution.
Nope, only the MacBook has USB 3.1 Gen 1. The MacBook Pro comes with Thunderbolt 3 which has USB 3.1 Gen 2 incorporated. The MBP will thus support Thunderbolt 3 as well as USB 3.1 Gen 2 (and lower).
With there being no USB3.1 Gen 2 docks and the USB 3.1 Gen 1 docks not being able to do that (this also applies to displays like the new LG 4k one!), the only option is to use Thunderbolt 3.
I mentioned a few times elsewhere on thread that I have the Kensington SD4600 usb-c dock. It does support one monitor at 4k @ 60hz and has usb 3 speed. $179 currently on Amazon, includes power supply. I was also looking for a TB3 solution but decided to pull out this dock that I had for a past XPS. Strangely, I had issues with the XPS and this dock, but the MBP hasn't given me any issues. Fully recommend it, unless you need the 40gb/s bandwidth. I thought I did, but in practice it doesn't seem so.
The official Thunderbolt website. They have a nice infographic about Thunderbolt 3:
Even nicer is the following presentation (slides in a pdf) which has a very nice schematic overview of the Thunderbolt controller (starting at slide 10).
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I wonder if this one works?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Elite-U...qid=1481542290&sr=8-1&keywords=HP+Elite+USB-C
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Elite-U...qid=1481542290&sr=8-1&keywords=HP+Elite+USB-C
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that's a USB C hub, not a thunderbolt 3 hub, so it's likely to be plagued with all the same issues as the rest.
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I'm waiting to see if they produce a Multidock 3. https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/
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Okay, now I'm confused. Does the new MBP support Thunderbolt 3 or not? It seems that something that hosts USB-C might not host Thunderbolt 3. Check out that ©2015 on the bottom of that document.
I'm waiting to see if they produce a Multidock 3. https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/
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The official Thunderbolt website. They have a nice infographic about Thunderbolt 3:
Even nicer is the following presentation (slides in a pdf) which has a very nice schematic overview of the Thunderbolt controller (starting at slide 10).
Okay, now I'm confused. Does the new MBP support Thunderbolt 3 or not? It seems that something that hosts USB-C might not host Thunderbolt 3. Check out that ©2015 on the bottom of that document.
USB-C is just a connector. A device that uses it might support Thunderbolt 3, USB 3.1 Gen 2, USB 3.0, or even USB 2.0.
The MacBook Pro (late 2016) has 4 USB-C ports and all support Thunderbolt 3, USB 3.1 Gen 2, USB 3.0, and USB 2.0.
The MacBook Pro (late 2016) has 4 USB-C ports and all support Thunderbolt 3, USB 3.1 Gen 2, USB 3.0, and USB 2.0.
That is correct. USB-C is only hardware: a connector and a cable. It is used by both USB and Thunderbolt 3. In general, if the connector has a lightning on it then it is a Thunderbolt 3 cable that only works with Thunderbolt equipment. When it doesn't have that symbol then it is a USB cable and will work on both USB and Thunderbolt devices.
The document I posted is about Thunderbolt 3 only, not about USB or USB-C. Thunderbolt 3 uses USB-C as its connector and it also incorporates a USB controller. I posted it to answer a question about the USB controller that is now integrated in the Thunderbolt chip.
The new MBP only comes with Thunderbolt 3 ports and thus supports both Thunderbolt and USB devices. The port uses the USB-C connector since that is what Thunderbolt 3 uses.
The official Thunderbolt website. They have a nice infographic about Thunderbolt 3:
Even nicer is the following presentation (slides in a pdf) which has a very nice schematic overview of the Thunderbolt controller (starting at slide 10).
I love the PHOTO. TOO BAD Apple has a flagship LAPTOP with Thunderbolt 3 out now, but didn't release any peripherals along with its release? No DOCKS, no eGPUs, nothing? They didn't even put a free dongle in the box, and they just want us to use the USB-C adaptors intended for the 12" MacBook? Not much if any of the TB3 adaptors on the market work, I bought a bunch and returned them... So the early TB3 adopters have a new laptop but have to buy an older adaptor, then wait for a proper TB3 to replace it. FUN! Its such a weird Apple Universe.. I don't quite understand it. Apple seems to have taken a dive since October 2012.. Tim Cook is then new Steve Ballmer, this seems clearer now. Apple will flub along like Microsoft did.. burning cash and its users.
Why would Apple need to do that when there are plenty of USB-C peripherals out? I'm fine with that as Apple has shown they have never been really any good when it comes to peripherals (printers, cameras, displays, mice).
Besides that, you really need to start reading what Thunderbolt actually is. Just looking at the picture is not going to help, read the text that's on it. As stated before, the laptop has Thunderbolt 3 ports and thus is able to connect both USB and Thunderbolt devices. Dongles and adapters are not a necessity, most devices require a different cable with a USB-C connector instead of the USB-A one.
This has been well known ever since Intel announced Thunderbolt 3 and can be found on the official Thunderbolt website. That's almost a full year before the MBP announcement!
In other words: troll be gone!
Besides that, you really need to start reading what Thunderbolt actually is. Just looking at the picture is not going to help, read the text that's on it. As stated before, the laptop has Thunderbolt 3 ports and thus is able to connect both USB and Thunderbolt devices. Dongles and adapters are not a necessity, most devices require a different cable with a USB-C connector instead of the USB-A one.
This has been well known ever since Intel announced Thunderbolt 3 and can be found on the official Thunderbolt website. That's almost a full year before the MBP announcement!
In other words: troll be gone!
For one USBC doesn't have all the bandwidth that Thunderbolt 3 has. SO in the case of having external monitors, your more limited with USBC, your not using the full bandwidth of the port, if you invest in USBC your going to have to replace it down the road, if you want to use the full power..
This is the 8th personal laptop I have purchased form Apple, and in the case of Apple Products I have purchased for the film work I have done, thats in the hundreds of systems. This is the first box that I have opening that had no Adaptors and dongles, and its one of the most expensive ones.
When the 12" MacBook was released they had USBC adaptors released alongside the laptop, they did not do this with 2016 MacBook Pro and TB3. It is not the way to make the early adopters of a product feel an easy transition.
TROLLING?? To criticize Tim Cook is not trolling, knowing where Apple once was, and to adknowledge how far they have strayed from their users, is knowing Apple can do better..
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I'm not even going to read past that first sentence as that one is already absolutely incorrect. USB-C is only a connector and a cable. The difference in bandwidth is determined by the protocols used over that cable which would be something like USB, Thunderbolt, DisplayPort and so on. If you can't even get this simple thing, that has been mentioned multiple times in this topic, other topics and gods knows where, right and simply refuse to do your homework then yes, you are trolling.