Documents Folder Empty, but not

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  1. BeardRaptus macrumors newbie

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    So I hadnt gone into documents for a few days but then I needed some dnd books in documents, I scroll over the documents icon on the dock but its empty. I go into finder but its also empty. However if I search a filename I know to be in the documents folder I can see and open in in either spotlight or alfred. But if I try and open its enclosing folder, a subfolder in documents, it loads for a second then kicks me out of it and back into my documents which is still empty. OS 10.6.8 MacBook Pro. Does anyone know how I would start to troubleshoot this?
     
  2. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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  3. BeardRaptus thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I tried both of them and got nowhere. What is the exact terminal command for the second suggestion? I tried it but i would like to be sure I tried your idea properly. It does say "unexpected indexing state"
     
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    GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    I posted the exact command. Just replace "your drive name" with the name of the drive you want to reindex. In Finder, click "Go" > "Go to folder" and enter /Volumes to see a list of the currently mounted volumes.

    Example: If your drive name is "Macintosh HD", the command would be:
    sudo mdutil -i on "/Volumes/Macintosh HD"​
     
  5. swiftaw macrumors 603

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    When you find the files in spotlight, select the option at the top of the spotlight menu "Show All in Finder"

    This will open a finder window showing your spotlight search results. Highlighting each file will show you it's location in the Path Bar at the bottom of the window. Is the location actually your Documents folder?
     
  6. Weaselboy Moderator

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    Just enter the command below in Terminal and that will reindex Spotlight, although I doubt that is your problem.

    Code:
    sudo mdutil -E /
    Click the desktop to bring focus to Finder then hit shift-command-g and a box will pop up. Paste the line below into the box and hit enter. That will bring up a Finder window with your documents folder. Do you see the files then?

    Code:
    ~/Documents
     
  7. BeardRaptus thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Nope, brings up the folder but it looks empty still. The folder size is 0kb but the files are still there
     
  8. swiftaw macrumors 603

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    Are you sure that you didn't move the files to another folder. Show all your spotlight results in finder then look at the path bar to see where the files are actually located.
     
  9. BeardRaptus thread starter macrumors newbie

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    my path for a given file looks like this accountname/documents/pdf 3_5 books/cityscape. Opening cityscape works, but opening pdf 3.5 kicks me back to documents. Where: /Users/accountname/Documents/pdf 3_5 books
     
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    When you say "empty but still there", do you mean when the ~/Documents folder comes up from that command there is nothing at all in the folder? But you can still see the files in Alfred/Spotlight?

    If so, it sounds like you have moved the files to another folder. Bring up a document in Spotlight then hit command-i. This will bring up an info window and at the top it will show what folder the file is stored in. What does that show you?

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    When you say this, are you clicking pdf 3_5 on the right side of Finder... or are you using a shortcut you previously dragged into the left sidebar of Finder?
     
  11. BeardRaptus thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I am clicking pdf 3_5 in the finder show path list
     
  12. swiftaw macrumors 603

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    If you look at the Documents folder is Terminal does it show your stuff.

    In terminal, type cd ~/Documents/
    Then type LS

    Do you see your files?
     
  13. Weaselboy Moderator

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    Hmmm... that's a puzzler. :confused:

    Do you have your Snow Leopard installer DVD? Do a C key boot to the disk then run Disk Utility and do a repair disk and see if that finds any errors. (Go ahead and repair permissions while you are there, although I don't think that is this issue).
     
  14. BeardRaptus thread starter macrumors newbie

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    navigating to documents in terminal then listing contents shows no results. I will try the repair function when I get home.
     
  15. Weaselboy Moderator

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    That won't work. Terminal paths with a space require an escape character such as the backslash after Macintosh in the command below.

    Code:
    sudo mdutil -E /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/
    Or just reindex all attached volumes with this command.

    Code:
    sudo mdutil -E /
     
  16. Darth.Titan macrumors 68030

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    Not if you enclose the path in quotes as GGJStudios did.

    sudo mdutil -i on "/Volumes/Macintosh HD"
     
  17. Weaselboy Moderator

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    Ahh... today I learned something. Thanks :)
     
  18. BeardRaptus thread starter macrumors newbie

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    the disk repair seems to have done absolutely nothing
     
  19. Weaselboy Moderator

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    Hmm...

    Run the command below in Terminal. This will put a files.txt document on your desktop showing all files in your Documents folder with them sorted beneath each subfolder. Look that over and compare to what you are seeing in Spotlight/Alfred for a few examples to see if you notice a common theme with the missing files.

    Code:
    ls -RF  ~/Documents > ~/Desktop/files.txt
     
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  21. Weaselboy Moderator

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    It seems you don't have a Documents folder at all beneath your home folder. Enter the command below in Terminal to show all folders in your user account and see if Documents is shown there at all? This should show Desktop, Documents, Downloads etc.

    Code:
    ls ~
    Can you think of anything you may have done recently that removed the Documents folder?
     
  22. BeardRaptus thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Documents is listed by that command. I havent changed much recently, I did a bunch of work on my mac a few weeks ago but after it all folders worked fine. I did clone my mac, format the drive then clone back. Thats only only thing i have done to affect the folder.
     
  23. Weaselboy Moderator

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    Are you sure you ran the below command correctly from my previous post? Be sure to copy/paste it into Terminal from here. Since the ls ~ command shows Documents is present, the below command will list the contents of Documents and all subfolders inside.

    Code:
    ls -RF  ~/Documents > ~/Desktop/files.txt
     
  24. chown33 macrumors 604

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    Copy and paste the following command line into a Terminal window:
    Code:
    ls -leaO ~ ; id
    
    Then copy and paste the complete unmodified output into a reply posted here.
     
  25. BeardRaptus, Jul 11, 2013
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    When i use
    Code:
    ls -RF  ~/Documents > ~/Desktop/files.txt
    i get out 
    ls: .lo#ali:ed: No such file or directory
    
    ls -leaO ~ ; id
    returns 
    total 2000
    drwxr-xr-x+  49 kevinstow-parker  staff  -        1666 Jun 18 02:04 .
     0: group:everyone deny delete
    drwxr-xr-x    5 root              admin  -         170 Jul  3  2010 ..
    -rw-------    1 kevinstow-parker  staff  -           3 Jul  3  2010 .CFUserTextEncoding
    -rw-r--r--@   1 kevinstow-parker  staff  hidden  24580 Jul 10 20:05 .DS_Store
    -rw-r--r--    1 kevinstow-parker  staff  -        4433 Apr 23  2012 .Rapp.history
    drwx------   25 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         850 Jul  4 01:51 .Trash
    -rw-------    1 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         191 Jan 22 17:30 .Xauthority
    drwxr-xr-x    4 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         136 Mar 31  2011 .adobe
    -rw-------    1 kevinstow-parker  staff  -        9921 Jul 10 11:25 .bash_history
    drwxr-xr-x    5 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         170 Jul 21  2011 .config
    drwx------    3 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         102 Jul  6  2010 .cups
    drwx------   18 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         612 Jul 10 16:34 .dropbox
    drwxr-xr-x   22 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         748 May 10  2011 .dvdcss
    drwxr-xr-x@ 267 kevinstow-parker  staff  -        9078 Aug  5  2012 .explorer.cache
    drwxr-xr-x@   3 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         102 Aug  5  2012 .explorer.local
    drwxr-xr-x   36 kevinstow-parker  staff  -        1224 Jan 22 17:18 .fontconfig
    -rw-r--r--    1 kevinstow-parker  staff  -      782243 Jun  4 23:29 .fonts.cache-1
    drwxr-xr-x    5 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         170 Jul 25  2010 .freecol
    drwx------    7 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         238 Jan 28  2011 .hamachi
    drwxr-xr-x    3 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         102 Jul 21  2011 .local
    -rw-r--r--    1 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         267 May 28  2012 .mailcap
    drwxr-xr-x   13 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         442 Dec  1  2012 .maptool
    drwxr-xr-x    4 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         136 Jan 19  2012 .matlab
    -rw-r--r--    1 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         378 Jun  4 23:31 .mime.types
    drwxr-xr-x    3 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         102 Jan 21  2011 .mono
    drwxr-xr-x    3 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         102 Jun  8  2011 .mplayer
    drwxrwxrwx    3 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         102 Jan 17  2011 .nchsoftware
    drwxr-xr-x    2 kevinstow-parker  staff  -          68 Sep  5  2010 .numptyphysics
    drwxr-xr-x    9 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         306 Sep 15  2010 .privgold100
    -rw-r--r--    1 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         785 Jan 27  2011 .recently-used
    -rw-------    1 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         745 Oct 13  2010 .recently-used.xbel
    drwx------    8 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         272 Apr 13  2011 .tor
    drwxr-xr-x   15 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         510 Jun  6 19:14 .vegastrike-0.5.0
    drwxr-xr-x    2 kevinstow-parker  staff  -          68 Feb 27  2011 .wapi
    -r--r--r--@   1 kevinstow-parker  staff  -          32 Feb 12  2011 .ypp_42
    drwxr-xr-x    7 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         238 May 28  2012 Applications
    drwxr-xr-x@   6 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         204 Jul  9 10:44 Applications (Parallels)
    drwx------+  36 kevinstow-parker  staff  -        1224 Jul 10 20:48 Desktop
     0: group:everyone deny delete
    drwx------+  22 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         748 Jul  6 10:46 Documents
     0: group:everyone deny delete
    drwx------+  43 kevinstow-parker  staff  -        1462 Jul  8 11:51 Downloads
     0: group:everyone deny delete
    drwx------+  55 kevinstow-parker  staff  -        1870 Jul  1 13:53 Library
     0: group:everyone deny delete
    drwx------+   4 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         136 Jun  3 21:19 Movies
     0: group:everyone deny delete
    drwx------+  46 kevinstow-parker  staff  -        1564 Jun 24 03:11 Music
     0: group:everyone deny delete
    drwx------+  36 kevinstow-parker  staff  -        1224 Jul  4 01:51 Pictures
     0: group:everyone deny delete
    -rw-r--r--@   1 kevinstow-parker  staff  -       71056 Apr 12  2011 Procedure For Determining Convergence.pdf
    drwxr-xr-x+   6 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         204 Jun  3 21:20 Public
     0: group:everyone deny delete
    drwxr-xr-x+   6 kevinstow-parker  staff  -         204 Jun  3 21:20 Sites
     0: group:everyone deny delete
    -rw-r--r--@   1 kevinstow-parker  staff  -       93564 Apr 12  2011 Tests of Convergence.pdf
    drwxr-xr-x@   2 kevinstow-parker  staff  -          68 Jun 18 02:04 iMacros
    uid=501(kevinstow-parker) gid=20(staff) groups=20(staff),204(_developer),100(_lpoperator),98(_lpadmin),81(_appserveradm),80(admin),79(_appserverusr),61(localaccounts),12(everyone),401(com.apple.access_screensharing),402(com.apple.sharepoint.group.1)
     

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