Does all this iCloud vs Apple ID email malarky confuse anyone else? Need advice!

Discussion in 'Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, Apple Services' started by RadicalxEdward, Feb 3, 2015.

  1. RadicalxEdward macrumors 6502


    Mar 8, 2011
    So I've finally decided to create a new apple id after not being able to use the online portion of iCloud or manage my apple id due to never being given a recovery key nor my iphone being set as an authorized device when i setup two step authentication.

    I'd love to have 1 email I use for everything rather than having multiple. That's why i like iCloud. I can go on my mac, phone or any browser and check/update my notes(which I use a lot), contacts, calendar, email, etc. I'm really not a huge fan of gmail anymore, so I'd rather use iCloud.

    So I go to set up a new account. It says to create a new Apple ID you have to sign up with a NON-APPLE email address. So I setup a new gmail address and created the apple ID. Then i try to go an setup my new notes account and all that and it says in order to use iCloud functions I need an iCloud email. There's no way for me to use my old one, so I now have to create a new iCloud email address to sync my notes and stuff. So now I have TWO new email accounts just for this. And it seems everywhere I look the two accounts are mixed up and I can't tell what is going where.

    Under internet accounts on my mac it says my new iCloud account, my name and my gmail address. And thats the address i use to login to but if i check my email on it's checking the iCloud account, not the gmail.

    WHY the heck do i need TWO email accounts just to make this stuff work. And now that i've had to do this more than once i don't even have names for stuff that I like. My gmail account is the screen name I use for everything, but my iCloud account is just my first/last name. Now I can't even decide which email I should give to people. Whether i should even switch from my current one, etc. :-(

    How do you guys use your email addresses? I need advice. I have too many emails to know how to use them effectively anymore.

    1) Nodenine****** - Current email I use for everything
    2) Radical.x.****** - (old iCloud) forget about, useless
    3) Radicalx****** (new) - my new apple id, thinking about switching from current email to one of these new ones.
    4) RemyL**** - wish i could have used my sn, but at least this works with all the iCloud stuff i like.
  2. impaler macrumors 6502

    Feb 20, 2006
    You don't need two accounts to create one. Just pop on a iOS device and create a new account.

    You can create an Apple ID with ANY email address - you then have functionality short of the full functionality offered with an email address.

    I still have my old email address from the .Mac days, and it's also my Apple ID. So my iTunes, iCloud and Apple ID are unified.
  3. AGX macrumors regular

    Oct 12, 2014
    Remember only that @icloud mail address have some problem with silent mail filter
  4. impaler macrumors 6502

    Feb 20, 2006
    Just to clarify, I'm not sure how literal you meant this statement, but iCloud accounts suffer from the silent mail filtering. This includes .mac and .me addresses. I have icloud, mac and me addresses, and are all aliases to the same account. They remain iCloud accounts and are subject to the same filtering rules.
  5. d21mike macrumors 68040


    Jul 11, 2007
    Torrance, CA
    I think he was talking about the iCloud Email Service vs. GMAIL Email Service. To be clear iCloud Email Service only supports, and


    I think if you want to go all in with iCloud you should get an iCloud Email Address and use it as your iCloud AppleID.

    My wife and I have our own personal (was AppleID that we use for all things iCloud. Mail, Contacts, Calendar, Family Sharing etc.

    We use a different AppleID for iTunes Store (Apps, Music, Movies) and Mac App Store. We share that. We have using long before Family Sharing which we do not use for this purpose.

    If you want to consolidate all email on then I would have my other email accounts like GMAIL just FORWARD (just copy or copy and delete) to your New But you could test for a while so see if you like it.
  6. JohnThomas998281, May 31, 2016
    Last edited: May 31, 2016

    JohnThomas998281 macrumors newbie


    May 31, 2016
    --- Post Merged, May 31, 2016 ---
    It IS all horribly confusing. I have iCloud account and I just activated email for iCloud on my iPhone, it asked me to choose an ID, so I chose to keep IDs consistent. Easy so far. Now on my Macbook (running El Capitan) I created a new Mail account for which it did but with alias which it would not let me change - you should be able to change it in Mail preferences but it kept freezing with the changes unrecorded.

    So my El Capitan Mail client ended up accounts and (with alias Confusing!

    I decided to deactivate and just not use iCloud mail.

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