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I feel like most people in this forum hate everything about iOS 11 and talk about it constantly. I like it! I like the big fonts and the control center design.

(I like High Sierra too. I think it’s a fantastic release ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

Anyone else feel the same?
 
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I feel like most people in this forum hate everything about iOS 11 and talk about it constantly...(I like High Sierra too. I think it’s a fantastic release ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

Because that's what a lot of people come here to do. They come here to complain. Some of them are just cranks who always have something negative to say, but most of them probably have legitimate complaints, but their numbers are not as big as they seem.

Every design change involves tradeoffs. There will be winners and losers. You make changes to a website that makes it easier for people to read on a mobile device, and the 5% of users who are clinging to their Motorola Razr phone and 21" Sony Tritron CRT will pull the pitchforks out. Percentage wise, the people who are haters is pretty small, but if they all seek out friendly confines to vent their displeasure, you get a lot of what you see here.

To be quite honest, on some days. I'm that guy. The people who think nothing good has ever happened since Snow Leopard are ridiculous, but how they feel isn't entirely foreign to me. Once in a while, I want to toss my iPhone in a lake and go back to having just a regular phone or even no phone at all.

A lot of those people have good reasons to be displeased, but some of them also need to understand that the world is passing them by.

And for the record, I neither love nor hate iOS 11. I couldn't tell you the difference between it and iOS 10 if my life depended on it. I've had some problems with High Sierra, but they were mostly minor and they've mostly been resolved... but I'm not a typical user and I've had problem with nearly every MacOS version upgrade so I expect that it's going to be a bumpy ride if I upgrade early. A lot of people expect the process to always be frictionless. It rarely is.
 
I hear even the most non-tech people complain about their iPhones these days IRL.

I think the bugs and poor performance have been weighing on people. Of course, there's hardly any option but to just buy a new one again.
 
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I don't hate iOS 11 and I've been perfectly happy with it since 11.3. I was just frustrated with all the bugs and the heavy throttling and less than stellar battery life my iPhone 6s was experiencing prior to 11.3. Since 11.3 I haven't had anymore notable issues with bugs and 11.3 also turned off throttling by default (and it hasn't tried to come back yet). I think a lot of people having similar experiences to me along some people being frustrated that features that were supposed to debut with iOS 11 ended up being significantly delayed led to a lot of rage towards iOS 11 on the forums.
 
I would say I have been ambivalent to iOS 11. On my 8 and SE it seemed flawless and no real issues. On my 6 I use for work it slowed it down so I am hoping the rumors I hear about iOS 12 speeding up older devices is true. That being said nothing on iOS 11 has jumped out at me as being awesome. I am not a big software guy so I am just happy when things work.
 
I don't hate iOS 11.

I just think compared to prior releases of iOS, it isn't nearly as polished as Apple would expect it to be. Frankly, I'm surprised they allowed it to go out in the state it has. And Apple has basically admitted this with iOS 12. So it isn't like my dislike is imaginary; Apple agrees.
 
I love what iOS11 does on my iPad Pro! With dock, files and Drag&drop and also the new keyboard. Clear advancement to iOS10.
 
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iOS 11 was quite good, never really had big bugs or so just 11.4 with a battery drain issue that is solved now.
High Sierra as well quite good just some random minor screen glitches but that's not the end of the world.
 
HS has been pretty good regarding every day performance (apart from some really really bad security bugs...).

iOS 11... I'll be glad when I never have to use iOS 11 again and wished that I stayed on 10:
  • Terribly slow 11.0 with serious power issues and so many graphical glitches regarding the lock screen, notifications and springboard
  • Seriously - my phone (7 - only the previous year's model) had degraded performance for around 6 months until things were (mostly) fixed by 10.3. That's not acceptable. There must've been something horribly wrong 'beneath the hood' for them to take 6 months to fix that. Or maybe everyone was on HomePod :rolleyes:)
  • It's a lot better now, but I still think that I experience more of a battery drain than with 10
  • I don't like the big header fonts at all and the apps are starting to feel jumbled up with different eras of the post iOS 7 design motifs mixed and matched. With 10 if you ignored Music and News, you could avoid the big header fonts. Now they are everywhere.
  • Happy-ish that iOS 12 is going to be one where the foundations are fixed for (presumably) a redesign and a feature update for 13 (dare they call it that?). Though sadly the big header fonts make their way to Books (although I don't mind so much as I don't use it).
I think that 2017-18 has been one of the worst ever years for Apple Software Engineering in a long time. I can't think when it was last this bad. I do think that they've steadied the ship though.
 
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I feel like most people in this forum hate everything about iOS 11 and talk about it constantly. I like it! I like the big fonts and the control center design.

(I like High Sierra too. I think it’s a fantastic release ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

Anyone else feel the same?

It's the nature of forums. People that are happy have a tendency not to post. People that are upset are more likely to.

Reading forums can give the erroneous impression that most people are unhappy unless you keep the above in mind. I've liked iOS 11, have had no problems worth complaining about. Same with friends and family. The people that have issues and complain on the forums here are not representative of the overwhelming majority (eg. see the 95% satisfaction rate of iOS 11 mentioned in the WWDC keynote last week).

So, most people are happy with it, yes, just try not to look at the forums as an indicator of public opinion.
 
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I think its great BUT....I had one annoying bug with one of the releases (think it was 11.2) where iMessage with some friends wasn't displayed correctly as in they were delayed and appeared in the wrong order.
Other than that i like it, no reason not to install it (well, maybe not if you are into jailbreaking)
 
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