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Again, what? I'm lost. How is having two devices not cumbersome when one device will do everything the other one will?

You're got to use an AW to understand the value. Reading info online and trying to imagine why the AW is useful doesn't work. This is one device that needs to be experienced to understand.
 
Why have a remote control AND a button on your TV to change channels?
I like that comparison a lot.

It gets to the heart of what I was trying to examine in this thread: The advantage of having a redundant backup device/method readily available.
 
I have both a key AND a key fob on my keychain.

The key will start my car AND unlock my car doors.
The key fob will ONLY unlock my car doors, and WON'T start my car.

However, I find it convenient to have BOTH. Because the time saved opening a car door by pressing a button instead of inserting my key (which I need to have in my hand because I have to put it in the ignition anyways) is WELL WORTH IT.

Unless you drive cars, you don't understand. It's a couple of seconds saved, but well worth it.

Um, nope. I just have a fob. In fact, my car didn't even come with a regular key. It would be silly to have both since the fob is always with me and always works.

There are numerous other examples, like why have both an oven AND a toaster?

I only have an oven...

Why have a remote control AND a button on your TV to change channels?

I don't watch TV...I have a computer for that.

Why have both a mouse and a keyboard? The keyboard can move the pointer around the screen too! The mouse doesn't do anything 'new' that a keyboard doesn't/

Well I'll refer back to your cumbersome argument. My mouse and keyboard sit on my desk. The mouse does something useful enough that there is no reason for it not to sit on my desk. My mouse isn't on my wrist and keyboard in my pocket. These aren't things I have to keep up with. I don't have to update both of them. They're pretty dumb devices.
 
Um, nope. I just have a fob. In fact, my car didn't even come with a regular key. It would be silly to have both since the fob is always with me and always works.

Many newer cars come with a 'fob only', but older cars don't.

But..... many cars with a 'fob only' (my wife has one) actually DO have a key.

It's INSIDE the fob.

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Some car manufacturers use this for the a backup if the battery dies, or to give to the valet so he can't open the glove compartment.
 
Many newer cars come with a 'fob only', but older cars don't.

But..... many cars with a 'fob only' (my wife has one) actually DO have a key.

It's INSIDE the fob.

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Some car manufacturers use this for the a backup if the battery dies, or to give to the valet so he can't open the glove compartment.

True, but if you lose your set of keys you're SOL anyway.
 
I have an Apple Watch and an iPhone 6 and an iPad and a Kindle Paperwhite. I don't "need" either the Apple Watch or the iPad or the Kindle Paperwhite. I bought the iPad on the first day they were available and have already upgraded twice to my current iPad Mini 3. I ordered the Apple Watch a mere 2 hours after advance ordering became available. I actually bought a Fire HD but returned it for disappointing battery life. Why do I have all of them if I don't "need" them? I LIKE them and that's enough to pry the money out of my wallet.

My iPad has become my main computer and I grab it when I'm going to class, evening meetings and even some work meetings. It has 3G (or is it LTE?) and I can keep my stuff on iCloud and Google docs so it's mostly accessible from any browser any time. I picked up a Kindle Paperwhite so I can get free books from Amazon's lending library and so I can carry an even smaller device if I know ahead of time all I want to do is read.

I picked up an Apple Watch so I can glance at my wrist to check my pace frequently when I'm running. It is a killer to start a half marathon too fast and drag at the end and to me that one feature is worth the price of the Apple Watch. But there's more. All I have to do is tap the temperature and a "clock" comes up with rain clouds, partly cloudy or suns arranged around a "watch face" that represents the rest of my day. I tap once and get temperatures and I tap again to get rain probabilities by hour. Clearly another killer app for me. Then there is the calendar app on the watch face. I can glance at my wrist and check upcoming meetings. I've been able to clear security and board an international flight using a boarding pass on my Apple Watch. Nothing in my hand but my carry on and my passport and perhaps it won't be long before that will show up on the watch as well. Then there's Apple Pay. I wave my watch at the credit card reader at Trader Joe's and I'm done. Not digging for my phone is definitely (to me) worth it.

Apple Watch isn't the first product Apple released to make money off of people's "wants" rather than their "needs." There is quite a long line of products that fits into the want category including iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and Apple Watch. And the same argument about need can apply to any smartphone. I remember carrying a Palm Treo back when people weren't sure anybody "needed" a smartphone, and then a Blackberry when people weren't all that sure about the need for push email. For me the iPhone wasn't so much about music when I bought it as it was about browsing the web using a Safari based browser rather than the broken browsers available on the Palm, Blackberry and Windows Mobile platforms back then. I also wanted a large selection of apps. Recently I've been listening to music on my iPhone and I'm happy with it but again we aren't talking about an actual need here. Needs include food, shelter, health and sleep and after you've had a smartphone, tablet and an Apple Watch they begin to feel like needs, but in all fairness they really aren't.
 
I won't lie, though: if I could spend the rest of my days surfing in Hawaii, with no electricity or Internet, I'd probably be happy.

I'd just need to convince my wife of the idea. And learn to swim a lot better.
 
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I won't lie, though: if I could spend the rest of my days surfing in Hawaii, with no electricity or Internet, I'd probably be happy.

I'd just need to convince my wife of the idea. And learn to swim a lot better.

I hang my head in shame because I left surfing and sitting on the beach sipping Corona off of the hierarchy of needs in my earlier post. :D
 
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