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I do. Because options are always a great thing, even though I am used to using wireless headphones now.

But seriously, a quality headphone is all you actually need when choosing a Bluetooth headphone.
 
Meaning iPhone 6s or below.


Unless there a way to used wired headphones on later iPhones.
Yeah, it’s called lightning earphones or lightning to 3.5mm adapter. The hysteria over the removal of the headphone jack is largely unfounded due to the fact that there are lightning to 3.5mm adapters.
 
Yeah, it’s called lightning earphones or lightning to 3.5mm adapter. The hysteria over the removal of the headphone jack is largely unfounded due to the fact that there are lightning to 3.5mm adapters.

Apple's lightning Earpods are **** audio quality. They're fine for podcasts but not any music where sound quality matters. As far as I know nobody makes quality headphones with Lightning plugs. From what I've read, Lightning does not output analog audio which means you have to incur the unnecessary cost of building a DAC and amp into the headphones.

The Lightning Earpods actually have a DAC/amp built in: https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...arpods-lightning-to-35mm-adapter-for-iphone-7 Thats a dumb solution-putting more stuff into earphones that frequently break and are thrown away. (And it's contrary to Apple's supposed environmentalism.) It would be difficult for audiophile headphone companies to replicate as they are often very small companies. Perhaps that is one of Apple's goals, to force people to buy their Beats brand headphones.

If you want the functionality that previous phones had, you have to carry a dongle on you 24/7. Carrying that thing separately in your pocket will inevitably result in losing it. Carrying it attached to the phone looks ridiculous and will break it.

Keeping the dongle attached to the headphones means you can only use the phone with that one pair. Get multiple dongles for each device, and you still can't use the phone to share something over a friend's headphones or stereo system.

The solution is simple-keep the DAC and amp in the phone so they are always there, just like every cellphone ever up until these last few iPhones and the Android copycats.

The only good alternative to the 3.5mm is if everybody standardizes on USB-C for phones, headphones and other audio products, and the iPhone gets a USB-C jack that outputs analog audio as well as digital.
 
Yeah, it’s called lightning earphones or lightning to 3.5mm adapter. The hysteria over the removal of the headphone jack is largely unfounded due to the fact that there are lightning to 3.5mm adapters.

You really believe it is good idea to be carrying adapters all the time just to use your earphones?

Apple has completely lost it and Samsung has Apple beat with their Galaxy S10+, which also includes a headphone jacket.

GG Samsung.

If my iPhone X breaks, I am leaving Apple behind.

With Apple you pay more but you get less all the time.
 
I moved on but always miss the headphone jack. A wired headphone always has better quality than wireless. My favorite in ear monitors did come up with a wireless wire but they still sound better on the wire that plugs in.

I do have the totally wireless buds and do really love the freedom they provide but they don’t sound as good as the wired ones.
 
I moved on but always miss the headphone jack. A wired headphone always has better quality than wireless. My favorite in ear monitors did come up with a wireless wire but they still sound better on the wire that plugs in.

I do have the totally wireless buds and do really love the freedom they provide but they don’t sound as good as the wired ones.
This is the thing, you can still use wired headphone. I don’t understand why people made it sound like you cannot even use wired headphones anymore. All the whining about a tiny adapter is ludicrous since most people are already carrying boatload of accessories from powerbank, charge cables, the headphone itself, etc. Most people don’t have multitude of headphones, thus a single adaptor would suffice being attached to the headphone.
 
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This is the thing, you can still use wired headphone. I don’t understand why people made it sound like you cannot even use wired headphones anymore. All the whining about a tiny adapter is ludicrous since most people are already carrying boatload of accessories from powerbank, charge cables, the headphone itself, etc. Most people don’t have multitude of headphones, thus a single adaptor would suffice being attached to the headphone.
Yes you are right there, I could buy an adapter. But I already spent the extra money to purchase the wireless wire for my Shures to find out the audio quality was less.

Apple takes away and the customer has to pay for an adapter to use what they had before.

I moved on - use Jabras totally wireless now. Really like the freedom they provide even though the sound quality is not as good as my Shures and there is audio lag when watching YouTube videos.

I have my Shures plugged into my laptop.

I bought the AirPods last year for my daughter for Christmas and she didn’t like them. I tried them and wasn’t crazy about them either so they were returned.
 
The 3.5 Jack is dated and antiquated. I’ve never encountered anyone that’s complained for the lack of headphone jack with their phone, not when Bluetooth is so much more convenient in most situations where they don’t _need_ wired headphones. I understand those who appreciate wired headphones, but Bluetooth has come along way with sound quality improvements, battery life and portability.
 
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I bought a mini wireless Bluetooth 3.5mm thing to connect my wired headphones. It has a clip too so it's still "wireless".
 
I can not remember the last time I used a wired headset. Been wireless for years now. Seems like a no brainer to me, but I know people are determined to keep using the jack. I would be upset if I wanted it, too!
 
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There’s never been a better time to move on. Pick up a discounted pair of first-generation AirPods and enjoy your newfound freedom from wires.
 
Yeah, it’s called lightning earphones or lightning to 3.5mm adapter. The hysteria over the removal of the headphone jack is largely unfounded due to the fact that there are lightning to 3.5mm adapters.
For some it's not an issue, for others it can be. Nothing really largely one way or another as it's more related to personal use.

It has an effect of needing to either carry lightning headphones or ones with and adapter with you, or carry at least and adapter or have multiple ones in different places where you might have headphones. Sure, not a huge problem really, but certainly not as simple as things were or are with a device that has an actual headphone jack -- basically more inconvenience because of a change that didn't bring much of a benefit.

It also certainly affects being able to charge the phone and use headphones at the same time.
 
I don't tend to listen to music with headsets. At work I feel I miss out on stuff if I'm isolated.

However, I do have a good set of noise cancelling head sets I bought for when I'm flying. I've had 2 overseas flights with them, and they help keep out the background noise. The downside is that, when in use, you can't charge the phone.

If I had waited a month, the same company released a bluetooth model of the head phones. Too late for me.
 
You really believe it is good idea to be carrying adapters all the time just to use your earphones?

Apple has completely lost it and Samsung has Apple beat with their Galaxy S10+, which also includes a headphone jacket.

GG Samsung.

If my iPhone X breaks, I am leaving Apple behind.

With Apple you pay more but you get less all the time.

Everyone has their own opinion, while I appreciate yours I feel based on real world usage.

If you are going to be carrying around some sort of wired headphones they have a wire anyway. So leave the adapter plugged into them. That adds 3 inches too an already unwieldy cord so its pretty much not an issue. If the headphones are even remotely decent the cord is removable anyway, remove it and replace it with a lightning to 3.5mm cord.

I think the headphone jack is great ONLY if there is an amp powerful enough to drive quality headphones, hifi systems, computers, etc.. Even a set of QC35's sounds better than equally priced wired options with mobile device impedances.

And when it comes to working out wireless is the way to go. This might sound weird but there isn't anything on the planet that pisses me off more then my earbud wire getting caught on something and ripping the buds out of the ears. I know i know calm down spaz, its just pet peeve of mine.
 
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The 6S is a fantastic device. Obviously if the A9 was a slug, I would have upgraded which Apple will be forcing any A9 users to do with iOS 13. I’m ready for a new phone but Apple’s pricing is outrageous and I know pricing is coming down in September. I’m not the biggest environmentalist but the thought of having to buy at least 3 lightning to 3.5 adapters makes me think what a waste of plastic I have to contribute to.
 
You really believe it is good idea to be carrying adapters all the time just to use your earphones?

Maybe, maybe not.

Regardless, this is why I use the AirPods (and, just replaced my gen 1 with the gen 2 ... nice improvements there!). It's been about 2.5 years since the headphone jack disappeared from iPhones, and I haven't missed it even once.
 
Forget what Apple said years ago.

You have what we in the business call...

Courage.

You know the fact is, it actually did take courage to remove the 3.5 mm Jack. And I’m glad Apple did make that advancement with the iPhone 7, because it’s interesting to see how other smart phone manufacturers have followed now that Apple has removed it. Is it still valued today for those who appreciate the 3.5 mm Jack? Yes. But Phil Schiller was 100% correct, it did take courage to do that, and I support Apple’s decision that they did.
 
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Bought the XS Max recently and had a pair of wired Bose Quietcomfort 20 earbuds I wanted to use so I bought the Apple adapter. I ran into a problem ID'd in this old thread (Headphone Adapter Clicking) -

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/headphone-adapter-clicking.1998128

I posted this:

I know this is an old thread but I just ran into this issue with my new iPhone XS Max (first phone without a headphone jack) when using my Bose QC 20 earbuds through the Apple Lightning audio adapter. The fix described works but it leaves the volume controls on the earphones disabled. I have Bluetooth headsets but the Bose are nice for their small size + noise cancelling.​

The fix was to rapidly click the volume controllers on the headphone wire.
 
The 3.5 Jack is dated and antiquated. I’ve never encountered anyone that’s complained for the lack of headphone jack with their phone, not when Bluetooth is so much more convenient in most situations where they don’t _need_ wired headphones. I understand those who appreciate wired headphones, but Bluetooth has come along way with sound quality improvements, battery life and portability.

Just because something is old does not mean it is "antiquated". Do you put square wheels on your car because circular wheels are "dated" and have been used for thousands of years? Do you think we should change the standard for household power outlets that has been used for a century just for the sake of change? Should Apple stop using copper conductors in its products and switch to some other random metal, because copper is "dated" and has been the standard for over a century?

There’s never been a better time to move on. Pick up a discounted pair of first-generation AirPods and enjoy your newfound freedom from wires.

And then throw them in the trash and buy another pair every couple years when the batteries wear out. High expenditures and environmental waste for low-quality earbud sound. Or you could buy an extremely high pair of wired headphones and spend less in the long run. Apple's In-Ear Headphones with Remote and Mic, for instance, sound vastly better than the Airpods, cost about half as much and will last longer. (Apparently they've discontinued them, though. I ought to buy a spare pair.)
 
You know the fact is, it actually did take courage to remove the 3.5 mm Jack. And I’m glad Apple did make that advancement with the iPhone 7, because it’s interesting to see how other smart phone manufacturers have followed now that Apple has removed it. Is it still valued today for those who appreciate the 3.5 mm Jack? Yes. But Phil Schiller was 100% correct, it did take courage to do that, and I support Apple’s decision that they did.
It might have taken courage to do it, but if that's essentially what gets used as the sole reason that could be communicated, that shows that there really isn't much to it beyond basically just doing it simply for the sake of it (otherwise there would be something else communicated as the reason for it all).
 
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