Does anyone get bad headaches?

[Surely]

If you want to discuss the pros and cons or a treatment please do so civilly.

Feel free to post them up. I'll be happy to appraise them for you or run them past the ortho/neuro registrars/consultants if it's beyond my level. You can PM them to me if you like. I'd also like to see an xray of your back after his treatment if you have one. I'm interested in what he changed or realigned.

I was being civil. What, you don't like it when I point out that your argument against chiropractic is the boring, party-line argument that the AMA has been using for decades? The AMA sure doesn't like the fact that chiropractors are able to help people without using the expensive drugs and surgeries that they want their doctors to push on everyone. The drug companies don't like it either. It's all politics.

Oh please Mr. Anonymous internet guy, can I please send you all of my confidential patient information for you to look at? That would be so swell. Get real. If you want information like that, why don't you consult with a chiropractor in your area? Or call a chiropractic school (NUHS, CMCC, NYCC, SCUHS)? I'm sure that they would be able to provide you with the information that you are asking for, including before and after x-rays.

As I mentioned before, I am no expert on this topic. I am not about to pursue this flame war trying to defend a legitimate health profession and providing you with research. And don't you think it's possible that maybe pubmed doesn't include all journals, especially ones that rely on subscription fees to fund itself (ie. JMPT)? I have no time for pursuing research and this argument. Sorry- I'm a busy guy. I will post this response, and then if you choose to reply, that's your choice. I will not post in this thread again.

You are clearly no expert on chiropractic. You seem to have some appreciation for what they do, but only in terms of the physio aspect of what they do. If you actually sat down and spoke with a chiropractor that went to an evidence-based school, they would be able to explain the anatomy, neurology and physiology behind a spinal adjustment. Instead, you choose to only listen to the clearly biased opinions of your medical school professors. I cannot have this argument with you- this is not my area of expertise. It would be an unfair discussion.

You seem to be an arrogant med student. Does your medical school know that you are providing anonymous medical advice in internet forums (without a medical license)? Does the AMA? Giving medical advice online is very irresponsible. I'd be more careful if I were you.

Good luck to you, I hope that when you graduate you will be a good doctor and help a lot of people.

 

[iBlue]

Well I started having these headaches after back surgery in January. I had a laminectomy - one of the side effects of which is a leakage of cerebrospinal fluid leak, resulting in headaches. I have talked to my doctor about this and he just says that sometimes it takes a while for things to completely heal and normalize. In the meantime, I must deal with daily headaches. So anyways I am just trying to figure out something that works.

Oh god, spinal headaches are horrible.

Do try the new pillow thing and possibly a new mattress if it gives you any back aches. It makes a world of difference sometimes.

Hydrocodone can cause rebound headaches but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. If you need to take 2 of them, perhaps they can give you a stronger dose. It comes in 5, 7.5 and 10mg tablets, with varying amounts of acetaminophen. "Norco" is 10mg hydrocodone 325mg acetaminophen and probably the way to go for you. If you feel confident asking for it anyway. Less acetaminophen is better for your liver.



I get my fair share of headaches and migraines. There's very few things worse than chronic head pain. Best of luck with this.

 

[Mord]

Yep. I was a bit uneasy taking it at first, but it's really been the only thing that's helped. The first few weeks are hard though, because it does make you exceptionally tired. It is supposed to help me sleep (not sleeping is a huge trigger for me) and it helped for a little while, but is not as effective anymore. Same for the headaches, but I'm still in a better place than I was a year ago.

The annoying thing is that I have horrific sleep problems that'd likely be helped by the drug, I'm still just too uncomfortable with the prospect of taking an anti-depressant.

 

[.Andy]

Oh please Mr. Anonymous internet guy, can I please send you all of my confidential patient information for you to look at? That would be so swell. Get real.

If you want to be confidential you can easily deindentify any information on the xray. you name will only be in one conrner just crop it out. I'm happy to respect your privacy if you want to be confidential, but claiming that a chiropractor fixed your spine that was visibly abnormal on Xray is rather hard to believe. If you can't show the xrays and can't remember what exactly was wrong with your spine, I guess we can completely ignore this portion of you your testimony in favour of chiropractors.

As I mentioned before, I am no expert on this topic. I am not about to pursue this flame war trying to defend a legitimate health profession and providing you with research. And don't you think it's possible that maybe pubmed doesn't include all journals, especially ones that rely on subscription fees to fund itself (ie. JMPT)?

The link you provided states that JMPT is part of medline (first page). Please read your sources.

You are clearly no expert on chiropractic. You seem to have some appreciation for what they do, but only in terms of the physio aspect of what they do. If you actually sat down and spoke with a chiropractor that went to an evidence-based school, they would be able to explain the anatomy, neurology and physiology behind a spinal adjustment.

Again the anatomy, neurology, and physiology aren't chriopractic. That's anatomy, neurology, and physiology which are medical and scientific fields. It does not add any credence to spinal manipulation.

Instead, you choose to only listen to the clearly biased opinions of your medical school professors. I cannot have this argument with you- this is not my area of expertise. It would be an unfair discussion.

We have talked to chiropractors during our course from a 'evidence based school'. And if by 'biased opinions' you mean striving to only subject patients to treatments that have proven efficacy then guilty as charged. There is no way you can ethically defend taking people's money or subjecting them treatments that aren't proven. The medical fraternity has been, and still does do this in certain areas now. Rightly so there is much contention.

You seem to be an arrogant med student.

You're not being civil again.

Does your medical school know that you are providing anonymous medical advice in internet forums (without a medical license)? Does the AMA? Giving medical advice online is very irresponsible. I'd be more careful if I were you.

You need to read more carefully. I didn't give out medical advice. I suggested some common headache medications that the OP could ask his treating doc about. I stressed he should revisit his treating doctor as they are the only specialists that know his contraindications and that of his surgery and personal circumstance. It's advice of a completely general nature you'd be able to pick up from wikipedia.

Good luck to you, I hope that when you graduate you will be a good doctor and help a lot of people.

Cheers if this isn't a backhand.

 

[letsgorangers]

The annoying thing is that I have horrific sleep problems that'd likely be helped by the drug, I'm still just too uncomfortable with the prospect of taking an anti-depressant.

Well I would definitely say it's worth a shot. I was having 3-5 migraines a week, tension headaches on non-migraine days, and not sleeping. After 3 botched attempts at migraine prevention, I was almost ready for anything. I was wary of an anti-depressant for the stigma, the side effects, etc. but I gave it a go anyway.

But in the end, it's really whatever you feel comfortable with doing.