MP All Models does anyone have a link to the right 16 core intel chip for 2019 mac pro pls?

[2bcool2]

hello, I'm planning on getting the 2019 12 core mac pro, and wondered what 16 core intel chip i would need if i wanted to up grade ion the future, also current;y how much could i get for the 12 core chip if i sold it now on eBay ? many thanks

i tried looking for the right chip but can't find which is the one

 

[velocityg4]

The 16-Core uses the Xeon W-3245

The 12-Core uses the Xeon W-3235

The 12-Core has only one listing on eBay for $1,500 but no sales history. Which means either it is priced too high. Which makes sense as only a few high end workstations use these chips. Most users of which are corporate users. Which won't be interested in wrecking their warranty to upgrade the CPU themselves. This is a new CPU too not one pulled from a computer. So, expect a lot less. I'm guessing closer to $1,000 as the 8-core only gets about $550 from a pull.

One 16-Core is listed at $1,750 and there is one sale.

Frankly, I think at best you may save $100 after eBay and Paypal fees. You may even end up paying more after fees. Which makes no sense to void your warranty and risk ruining a computer which will run you over $6,000. Probably well over $7,000 after other upgrades.

Although todays values mean nothing if this is a future upgrade. Although I wouldn't expect much discount until the processor is discontinued and IT departments start dumping the workstations and servers on the market. Also when the recyclers start tearing them apart to part them out.

Most value workstation users who do upgrades themselves or DIY the whole computer are likely going to go with Threadripper, Epyc or a cheaper socket Xeon.

 

[2bcool2]

The 16-Core uses the Xeon W-3245

The 12-Core uses the Xeon W-3235

The 12-Core has only one listing on eBay for $1,500 but no sales history. Which means either it is priced too high. Which makes sense as only a few high end workstations use these chips. Most users of which are corporate users. Which won't be interested in wrecking their warranty to upgrade the CPU themselves. This is a new CPU too not one pulled from a computer. So, expect a lot less. I'm guessing closer to $1,000 as the 8-core only gets about $550 from a pull.

One 16-Core is listed at $1,750 and there is one sale.

Frankly, I think at best you may save $100 after eBay and Paypal fees. You may even end up paying more after fees. Which makes no sense to void your warranty and risk ruining a computer which will run you over $6,000. Probably well over $7,000 after other upgrades.

Although todays values mean nothing if this is a future upgrade. Although I wouldn't expect much discount until the processor is discontinued and IT departments start dumping the workstations and servers on the market. Also when the recyclers start tearing them apart to part them out.

Most value workstation users who do upgrades themselves or DIY the whole computer are likely going to go with Threadripper, Epyc or a cheaper socket Xeon.

thanks for the info!
yeah I was just wondering about prices for the future. its good to know I Can update the cpu in a few years time if the Mac pr makes me money lol.

I was wondering if I can connect a ssd drive ( not m.2) using cable ? without the pegasus thing.

cheers!

 

[DFP1989]

If you’re going to order a 12-core only to upgrade to a 16-core, I can’t see why you wouldn’t just do it through Apple. The hassle and warranty implications surely can’t be worthwhile compared to the potential for a very small saving.

Upgrading RAM and storage yourself? Absolutely! Both are super easy and markedly cheaper than BTO, but IMO going DIY on the CPU upgrade (especially 12 to 16) doesn’t make sense.

For what it’s worth, I’ve ordered a 16-core with W5700X, and upgrading the RAM and storage myself.

 

[2bcool2]

If you’re going to order a 12-core only to upgrade to a 16-core, I can’t see why you wouldn’t just do it through Apple. The hassle and warranty implications surely can’t be worthwhile compared to the potential for a very small saving.

Upgrading RAM and storage yourself? Absolutely! Both are super easy and markedly cheaper than BTO, but IMO going DIY on the CPU upgrade (especially 12 to 16) doesn’t make sense.

For what it’s worth, I’ve ordered a 16-core with W5700X, and upgrading the RAM and storage myself.

agree .. I should have explained I can't afford 16 core right now, just going up to 12 core is £1000 !
but I thought if done the line maybe 3 or 4 years from now the 16 core chip goes down to a decent price then I have more chance of selling the 12 core to someone who bought the 8 core, rather than trying to sell an 8 core to people who already got the 8 core lol..

in uk , it makes no sense to buy apple care since we have 6 year guaranty using consumer law , which not a lot of people know I used this after 4 years owning iMac that had a pink screen .

only down side is when the new arm chip comes out we can't use that chip in our Mac Pro , unless its possible;e to buy a new motherboard ? even so will be expensive

 

[DFP1989]

We have similar guarantees in Australia, though I expect it would get more complicated once you start pulling the system apart to replace the CPU.

I’m assuming the upgrade cost for the 16 is double what it is for the 12, same as here?

I purchased the 16-core to future proof so I wouldn’t be in the situation you describe.

The 16 looks to offer the best balance of clocks, cores and performance for the dollar, and all I can say is I’d wait to order with the 16 if it’s ultimately what you want.

In 3-4 years I wouldn’t expect the 12-core to be all that sought after, just look at the way the 5,1 and 6,1 processor prices have dropped. If your not selling one of the highest offered chips for the platform, your buyer base for what is one peg above base is likely to be pretty small, and not willing to pay much.

 

[2bcool2]

We have similar guarantees in Australia, though I expect it would get more complicated once you start pulling the system apart to replace the CPU.

I’m assuming the upgrade cost for the 16 is double what it is for the 12, same as here?

I purchased the 16-core to future proof so I wouldn’t be in the situation you describe.

The 16 looks to offer the best balance of clocks, cores and performance for the dollar, and all I can say is I’d wait to order with the 16 if it’s ultimately what you want.

In 3-4 years I wouldn’t expect the 12-core to be all that sought after, just look at the way the 5,1 and 6,1 processor prices have dropped. If your not selling one of the highest offered chips for the platform, your buyer base for what is one peg above base is likely to be pretty small, and not willing to pay much.

I literally can't afford going from 8 core to 12 core , but I'm doing it lol , but there's no way I can afford 16 core,
changing the cpu in a few years time is really easy to do. ifs bought a 28 core to replace , its a lot cheaper than ordering the 28 core Mac Pro from apple .

I bought an iMac and speced it right out about4 years ago, and was sad to see that my editing was so complicated that the iMac still had trouble even with all that power. I use green screen and lots of layered green screens so I dod demand a lot.

now my challenge isn't green screens , its 8k footage... hopefully its fine.

can't wait to get my Mac Pro next week. any idea if I can just stick my ssd ( not m.2) in the Mac Pro without the expensive caddie ?

cheers.
love Australia but your governments screwing you !

 

[DFP1989]

Out of curiosity, why are you greenscreening 8K?

No you need at the very least a power cable kit to power the drive from the custom onboard connector. SATA cable/connector is standard. There is also no factory mount hardware for a 2.5inch drive.

Options are a PCI-e card that can take the 2.5 inch SSD, or the Sonnet kit.

 

[2bcool2]

no when I got my iMac I was greencreening 4k for contests, I had to play multiple characters at the same time.
im not doing much green screening these days, but after effects work and 8k editing and grading etc once I get the new canon r5
8k is useful so I can crop in lots , I do this with 4k but will be amazing to crop in so much and have high quality still.

thanks for the advice

 

[DFP1989]

I’m one of the first in line for an R5 when they arrive in Aus, very keen on it!

My Mac Pro is going to help deal with the footage from my 1DX III. Been editing C200 4K CRL for two years on my hackintosh and it’s been good, but the 5.5K CRL plus the release of the 7,1 will finally get me into a Mac desktop.

 

[2bcool2]

I’m one of the first in line for an R5 when they arrive in Aus, very keen on it!

My Mac Pro is going to help deal with the footage from my 1DX III. Been editing C200 4K CRL for two years on my hackintosh and it’s been good, but the 5.5K CRL plus the release of the 7,1 will finally get me into a Mac desktop.

nice ! the specs look great but we know canon always cripple their cameras some how. people are dying , no this time the didn't .. but until we see it , I got a feeling something will not be right ..
also Sony new camera announcement moved from early July to late July, maybe a7s3 ?
so who knows what cameral get .. at the mo , its r5. I've got gh5 , and fantastic camera , but not full frame, AF sucks ..

do you know if this adapter will. be the right one to connect an m.2 ssd ?
are there different speeds ones ? I know my m.2 is capable of 3gb per second read write

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cheers

 

[DFP1989]

I would have agreed with you a few years ago, but I get the feeling Canon has wisened up and realise they can’t get away with it anymore, the competition is too intense and impressive.

My 1DX III doesn’t feel crippled at all, I am absolutely thrilled with it! If the R5 is more of the same, it will replace my EOS R and 5DIV for sure.

 

[2bcool2]

the 1dx 3 image looks great, a local filmmaker made a feature that did well using it, I heard a rumour they might use the 1dx 2 chip in the r5 .. ?

I started with 5dm2. and what a time to be alive that was ! been though bmpcc , now gh5.
I always liked the low light of a7s2 but not the AF.
how do you think the 1dx3 will be better than the r5 ? I mean r5 should be cheaper so they wouldn't make it as good or better than, also 1dx 3 is a top photo camera.

if I had a guess on average I would say you use premiere ?
I use davinci studio. though I have used all edit apps. I hate the fcp magnet.

 

[DFP1989]

I shoot both video and stills, so will always have multiple bodies. I hate mirrorless for action photography, so definitely won’t be giving up the 1DX III any time soon. Aiming to pickup a C500II at some point, but want to get a bit more out of my C200 (about 2.5 years old at this stage) before I make that leap.

Haven’t edited on the dumpster fire that is Premiere for over three years. Committed to the FCPX transition and haven’t looked back.

 

[LeonPro]

I wouldn't want to go from 12-core to 16-core as an upgrade path. I would just save up for a 28-core down the road.

I got a 16-core, 4TB Apple memory stick, and 48GB RAM. My immediate upgrade even before it arrived was a Samsung 970 Evo Plus m.2 Nvme mated to a PCIe adapter which I used as the OS boot. Once that was done, I wiped clean the Apple 4TB memory and serve as my media drive.

The next upgrade was to wait for someone to dump their Apple 48GB RAM as they upgrade to higher memory. I saw that happen and took the opportunity to get their original RAM for cheap. Now I get a total of 96GB RAM in the full 12 slots.

Rounded it off with a J2i HDD which serves solely as my Time Machine.

When the time comes and the 28-core has depreciated, that's where I'll go next.