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I think it's wonderful! I don't understand what all of the fuss was over. There was nothing wrong with the previous iOS but this one really gives you something to look at. The colors jump right out.
 
The problem with comparing the reported crashes in IOS 7 with IOS 6 is that the vast majority of the crashes you're talking about are in IOS 7 on the A7 chip - ie the new 64 bit devices - and are almost certainly related to the code transition to 64 bit. That's a transition which IOS 6 would have had to make too, even if nothing else had been changed, and would have doubtless have resulted in the same teething issues - put short IOS 6 running on a 5S would have been crash city too.

IOS 7 running on an iPhone 5 or below is, in my experience, bombproof. Apart from a few Safari disappearances in earlier builds I don't think I've seen a single crash in the OS itself.

IOS 6, certainly on the iPhone 5, was significantly more buggy in my experience. I actually returned two phones due to issues which turned out (by the third phone) to be standard annoyances. The wifi problems in particular were awful and I was far, far from alone in that; the same phone now has a perfect connection wherever I go.

For the record I much preferred IOS 5 to 6, but 7 tops them both.
On two different iPhone 5 devices that I deal with regularly iOS 7 has been crashing fairly frequently and regularly (often either when using native apps like Safari with just a few tabs open or performing typical and simple OS functions like just bringing down the notification center) especially when compared to iOS 6. So it's definitely not limited to A7/64-bit devices, even though those might be experiencing even more issues for some.
 
Not so.

IOS 7 is largely IOS 6 in functionality.

Some changes are irritating like having to swipe right to left on email entries to bring up the quick trash (use to be left to right). PIA to when you are used to the other way for 6 versions of the OS. Why was it changed? Sloppy development.

The IOS7 look is ugly. It is. What guy is into pastels? I just fail to see how this new look is better. I don't feel any more productive.

The OS has loads of bugs which diminish productivity and are the real source of dissatisfaction. Apple is moving slowly to fix, as they always do. For example, why no acknowledgement of the Safari issues. Why no fix. Its been pretty well established that there is an issue. Yet, nothing out of Apple.

On a scale of 1 to 10, I give Apple a 2 for this release. I hope, but doubt, 7.1 will fix much. IOS 8 will be the OS Apple intended to release.

If they really want to know how well received IOS7 is…all users to downgrade to 6…then we'll see how popular it is...

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Let distracting?

You must be color blind…as its far from that!

You're right. How could anyone possibly not have your opinion? My god, have we been wrong all along??? Maybe we should have known from earlier that the world does revolve around your opinions ad that everyone should not have a choice.

Give me a break man, some people like it, and some don't. You're obviously overthinking this.
 
Reading some of these posts got me thinking...

My new iPad Mini and 5s seem to crash VERY frequently when performing the most mundane tasks, however my old iPad 3 rarely ever crashes. I actually can't remember a time that it did in fact crash.

I do have to wonder if it's the 64 bit architecture...
 
Finally, Notification is full screen, and people were wondering what all the fuss is about.

i dunno what else to say, since allot of features are Android-like anyway. This, alone, makes me wonder if Apple can seriously do any innovation.

Flashlight has been on Android for ages..... and now its on iOS by default.. Took Apple long enough

Personally i still say there was "more than meets the eye" when Scott left Apple..
 
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It's definitely an improvement but I almost think they went too flat with the whole redesign. Before the update buttons were actually buttons; now they're just colored text that you tap on. Some of the icon choices are a bit questionable as well but believe me when I say, I would never go back to iOS 6 after using iOS 7.

I agree, nice looking from Home Screen but sometimes it is hard to determine buttons and clickable links etc. Too Flat, needs a bit more color, I use Notes a lot and the flat white design is absolutely horrible, so is the Calendar all White is annoying.
 
There have always been known issues with all versions of IOS, whether they affected you or not. On IOS 6 for example my iPhone 5 had some serious wifi issues, and my wife's 4S started freezing randomly in iMessage - both problems were resolved in IOS 7.

I use my phone a LOT, probably too much, and IOS 7 on my i5 is smoother and less crash prone than any other iPhone/OS combination I've had over the past 5 years of iPhone ownership. I have zero problems with it.

You are describing hardware issues as I have/had both of those phones and never those issues.

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Personally I like the cleaner new design. It definitely needs some work as iOS 7 does feel a little unfinished in some places. I am not criticising it as I am sure it will improve over time. iOS 7 really embodies Apple's philosophy of removing design and placing the content at the center. The new look will improve over time and Im looking forward to seeing what leaks over to OS X.

Why are you tip toeing around your feelings. It needs work and that is a criticism. Do you think Apple is monitoring you?

Btw..there is no philosophy here. Yes, apple removed design but don't be fooled into thinking content is somehow better or more prominent. Its not. All they did was change the presentation layer. And they did not do a great job of it.

Huge let down. We'll all be waiting for IOS 8 cause Apple won't be spending much more time on IOS7. Just look at how slow its been just to get simple, and needed fixes.

No, to spend time fixing IOS 7, would imply IOS 7 was not good. So Apple won't be doing it.

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The problem with comparing the reported crashes in IOS 7 with IOS 6 is that the vast majority of the crashes you're talking about are in IOS 7 on the A7 chip - ie the new 64 bit devices - and are almost certainly related to the code transition to 64 bit. That's a transition which IOS 6 would have had to make too, even if nothing else had been changed, and would have doubtless have resulted in the same teething issues - put short IOS 6 running on a 5S would have been crash city too.

IOS 7 running on an iPhone 5 or below is, in my experience, bombproof. Apart from a few Safari disappearances in earlier builds I don't think I've seen a single crash in the OS itself.

IOS 6, certainly on the iPhone 5, was significantly more buggy in my experience. I actually returned two phones due to issues which turned out (by the third phone) to be standard annoyances. The wifi problems in particular were awful and I was far, far from alone in that; the same phone now has a perfect connection wherever I go.

For the record I much preferred IOS 5 to 6, but 7 tops them both.

Again, you describe hardware issues…I've run the same phones and same OS and never a WIFI issue. Most of my use is WIFI.
 
You are describing hardware issues as I have/had both of those phones and never those issues..


No more than anyone having problems with IOS 7 now is having "hardware issues" since the OS works fine for me.

In reality the "hardware issue" I has with IOS 6 on my iPhone 5 (poor wifi) was completely cured by IOS 7, so how do you explain that?
 
Let me state that I prefer iOS over all other tablet OS choices. BUT I HATE THE STARK WHITE DESIGN. Does anyone actually like the "minimalist" design of iOS 7??? Colorless, simplistic, cheap looking... Too bright!


I'm with you! I hate all the bright white. It's blinding and makes things hard to see, especially with the thin light gray lines. I prefer textures, shadows and color. The new features and functionality are great though.
 
The problem with comparing the reported crashes in IOS 7 with IOS 6 is that the vast majority of the crashes you're talking about are in IOS 7 on the A7 chip - ie the new 64 bit devices - and are almost certainly related to the code transition to 64 bit. That's a transition which IOS 6 would have had to make too, even if nothing else had been changed, and would have doubtless have resulted in the same teething issues - put short IOS 6 running on a 5S would have been crash city too.

IOS 7 running on an iPhone 5 or below is, in my experience, bombproof. Apart from a few Safari disappearances in earlier builds I don't think I've seen a single crash in the OS itself.

IOS 6, certainly on the iPhone 5, was significantly more buggy in my experience. I actually returned two phones due to issues which turned out (by the third phone) to be standard annoyances. The wifi problems in particular were awful and I was far, far from alone in that; the same phone now has a perfect connection wherever I go.

For the record I much preferred IOS 5 to 6, but 7 tops them both.

I do agree with you.
I think most of the reported bugs and crashes are related to the 64-bit implementation of some apps.
iOS 7 is stable on my iPhone 5 and on my iPad 4, and the only real complains I have are about battery usage and sometimes buggy battery indications.

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On two different iPhone 5 devices that I deal with regularly iOS 7 has been crashing fairly frequently and regularly (often either when using native apps like Safari with just a few tabs open or performing typical and simple OS functions like just bringing down the notification center) especially when compared to iOS 6. So it's definitely not limited to A7/64-bit devices, even though those might be experiencing even more issues for some.
I'm using iOS 7 on two devices for 8-10 hours a day, and I never had a crash.

Actually I had one, a month ago, when my iPhone 5 restarts during a call. So it makes ONE crash in almost 3 months.
I can live with it, definitely ....

iOS 6 wasn't better nor worse in reliability.
 
I can't say I was a big fan of the design in iOS 7 when it came out. I still feel that there is too much white, but after being on iOS 7 for about two month, I simply can't look at the old design used up to iOS 6. It's so awkward and outdated.
 
I absolutely love AirDrop! I transferred 50 pictures from my iPad to my iPhone all at once. You can't do that with iMessage. Nice improvement. :)
 
I LOVE everything about iOS 7!!!!!! The look the features the wallpapers the new swiping to get back to stuff everything! Well except the extra lag on iPhone 4 but that's really more my phone then iOS 7 because it runs amazing on iPhone 5s.
 
I prefer the overall OS design to iOS 6 and before. But I am not as big a fan of about half of the stock icons. Some changes were good (Safari, Calendar, Weather, Maps, Music, even Notes,) some were bad (Photos, Camera - in removing skeumorphism, they went to a MORE skeumorphic icon! - Newsstand,) some are downright horrible (Voice Memos, Game Center...)

Although "love" is too strong a word.
 
Looks over function.

Considering it adds two features that make it instantly more functional.

Anyone who says quick access to some settings via Control Center and the swipe back & forward through browsed pages in Safari doesn't improve functionality is wrong.
 
The look is just modern. People say it looks like android...yeah so does every os. Flat is the new fad now so obviously everyone is going to look somewhat similar and it is hard to create a product like a phone and it not resemble others. I remember seeing the first couple of android phones and thinking they were such a rip off of the iPhone. I think it's a great attempt of making icons flat, without losing all dimension on the phone. I think that's why they added the parallax, and it definitely has more dimension than windows phones do. Apple does a great job with this in control center and the notification center too. Instead of looking like a completely new window...it just overlays and creates the sense that what you were doing before is still there and isn't going anywhere.
I don't know, I guess I just love this operating system too much to say much bad about it. Looking at iOS 6 makes me never want to go back...ever.
P.S. Pastel colors are not on my iPhone so I don't know where everyone is getting this idea of pastel colors...maybe bright colors is the word everyone is looking for.
 
Considering it adds two features that make it instantly more functional.

Anyone who says quick access to some settings via Control Center and the swipe back & forward through browsed pages in Safari doesn't improve functionality is wrong.

That has nothing to do with the look. IOS 7 could look like IOS6 and add those features.

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The look is just modern. People say it looks like android...yeah so does every os. Flat is the new fad now so obviously everyone is going to look somewhat similar and it is hard to create a product like a phone and it not resemble others. I remember seeing the first couple of android phones and thinking they were such a rip off of the iPhone. I think it's a great attempt of making icons flat, without losing all dimension on the phone. I think that's why they added the parallax, and it definitely has more dimension than windows phones do. Apple does a great job with this in control center and the notification center too. Instead of looking like a completely new window...it just overlays and creates the sense that what you were doing before is still there and isn't going anywhere.
I don't know, I guess I just love this operating system too much to say much bad about it. Looking at iOS 6 makes me never want to go back...ever.
P.S. Pastel colors are not on my iPhone so I don't know where everyone is getting this idea of pastel colors...maybe bright colors is the word everyone is looking for.

Fad…says who? Jony Ive should simply not be designing interfaces. Bring back Scott in this regard.

BTW..Apple stole ideas from the Jailbreak community regarding why IOS in general was not up to par. Lets not applaud their ingenuity on many IOS changes. Although, I do give them 100% credit for all the bugs, and weirdness in IOS7.
 
Yeah I really like iOS 7. So much better IMO than iOS 6. The old iOS design hadn't changed much since the first iPhone and was looking a bit stale, and was overdue a overhaul.
 
That has nothing to do with the look. IOS 7 could look like IOS6 and add those features.


He said it was "looks over function", which iOS 7 is not. Yes, iOS 6 could have had those features but it doesn't. Hence iOS 7 is more functional by having the aforementioned features.
 
I think it would be difficult to add the control centre into IOS 6 without it looking pretty bad in comparison. The translucency makes it work really well in 7 as something you can just bring up without ever taking you too far away from what you were doing. In IOS 6 it would mean yet more stitched cloth (because it's more intuitive to see these options overlaid on a pair of trousers for some reason) and a more jarring switch away from the underlying app.
 
I think it would be difficult to add the control centre into IOS 6 without it looking pretty bad in comparison. The translucency makes it work really well in 7 as something you can just bring up without ever taking you too far away from what you were doing. In IOS 6 it would mean yet more stitched cloth (because it's more intuitive to see these options overlaid on a pair of trousers for some reason) and a more jarring switch away from the underlying app.

I don't think that's a fair assumption. The design of iOS would have evolved anyway, that was bound to happen when Ive took over. OS X Mavericks, for instance, no longer has the linen backgrounds but black gradients with transparency. The same would have worked on iOS 6, a lot like Notification Centre currently looks on the iPhone 4 with iOS 7 (since it does not have translucency effects).

The translucency effects are as much an aesthetic choice as the linen backgrounds were and are even skeuomorphic in that way.
 

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I don't "love" iOS 7, just like I do not "love" my Lincoln or any other inanimate object. I love my wife, my family, my puppy. But love an inanimate piece of software?

I do, however, appreciate, or not appreciate a piece of software. I like iOS 7, for more than just the silly assed graphical interface, and currently have 7.1 B2 installed on both both iPads and iPhone 5.
 
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