cleanair

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Even Wozniack said that removing the jack would tick off a lot of people.

I've heard that iPhone has good music quality, but removing the headphone jack would mean that you remove the quality of the iPhone, since bluetooth always sounds worse than a normal headphone.

But perhaps it is moving in the right direction because cords of headphone are always messy and a trouble to always plugging it on and off.
 

cleanair

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However that can be only used when it's not charging. But in case you use your iPhone for several hours a day, it's likely that you'll be charging once or twice during the day at which time you can't use that adapter.
 

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Even Wozniack said that removing the jack would tick off a lot of people.

I've heard that iPhone has good music quality, but removing the headphone jack would mean that you remove the quality of the iPhone, since bluetooth always sounds worse than a normal headphone.

But perhaps it is moving in the right direction because cords of headphone are always messy and a trouble to always plugging it on and off.

These headphone jack discussions are redundant. However everyone has their own preferences what they choose to use. I migrated towards the AirPods and rarely ever use my wired your phones anymore. But I'm also not an audiophile either. I just prefer the freedom of having no wires and the convenience of the features with the AirPods.
 

cleanair

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Is there a reason you prefer AirPods to other bluetooth devices? Does it sound better than other bluetooth?
 

Rufuss Sewell

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It’s been an absolute nightmare. It totally sucks not having a headphone jack.

I have 3 vehicles, all of them have aux inputs, no bluetooth.

I have lots of high end headphones I can no longer use.

I’m a touring musician and I use my phone for playlists between sets. All venues expect a 3.5mm jack, so I need to carry an old phone around as an iPod.

NO I will not be carrying that stupid adapter around.

If I do use the adapter or those stupid iPod headphones, I can’t charge.

Most idiotic idea in Apple history.
 

daynoock

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I got a pair of Beats X earlier in the year and have never wanted to go back to wired earphones, it’s so much more convenient than having all these wires while you’re walking places.

No headphone jack is another reason for people to moan about Apple but the truth is wireless is so much better, regardless of Apples rationale for removing it, it wouldn’t make me turn to an Android device
 

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It’s been an absolute nightmare. It totally sucks not having a headphone jack.

I have 3 vehicles, all of them have aux inputs, no bluetooth.

I have lots of high end headphones I can no longer use.

I’m a touring musician and I use my phone for playlists between sets. All venues expect a 3.5mm jack, so I need to carry an old phone around as an iPod.

NO I will not be carrying that stupid adapter around.

If I do use the adapter or those stupid iPod headphones, I can’t charge.

Most idiotic idea in Apple history.

Why don't you use an older phone as the main phone or not use the new phone at all?
 

Relentless Power

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Is there a reason you prefer AirPods to other bluetooth devices? Does it sound better than other bluetooth?

I like the AirPods because of the simplicity and how they seamlessly pair with the iPhone. Aside from that, the battery life is excellent. You can charge the AirPods for 15 minutes and you can have three hours of continual use.

Aside from that, I'm actually surprised how comfortable they are to wear and I don't have the weight of the wires that will pull the AirPods out of my ear.
 

TooDarkPark

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I don't mind. I bought a new 7+ on Tuesday and it's the first phone that I have owned without the headphone jack. My car has BT. I would rather use BT and not have any wires connecting my phone. I don't really listen to music all that much at home lately so I haven't even taken the little adaptor out of the box.
 

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Even Wozniack said that removing the jack would tick off a lot of people.

I've heard that iPhone has good music quality, but removing the headphone jack would mean that you remove the quality of the iPhone, since bluetooth always sounds worse than a normal headphone.

But perhaps it is moving in the right direction because cords of headphone are always messy and a trouble to always plugging it on and off.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-the-best-things-apple-did-heres-why.2090693/
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However that can be only used when it's not charging. But in case you use your iPhone for several hours a day, it's likely that you'll be charging once or twice during the day at which time you can't use that adapter.
Even with using the phone for several hours a day in a lot of cases for many it doesn't need to be charged more than once let's say overnight or at the end of the day or something like that.

Even that aside, there are adapters that allow to charge and use wired headphones at the same time. (Not to mention that with wireless headphones all of that isn't an issue either.)
 
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It’s been an absolute nightmare. It totally sucks not having a headphone jack.

I have 3 vehicles, all of them have aux inputs, no bluetooth.

I have lots of high end headphones I can no longer use.

I’m a touring musician and I use my phone for playlists between sets. All venues expect a 3.5mm jack, so I need to carry an old phone around as an iPod.

NO I will not be carrying that stupid adapter around.

If I do use the adapter or those stupid iPod headphones, I can’t charge.

Most idiotic idea in Apple history.

Have you ever heard of that magical adapter that lets you charge and listen to music at the same time? Revolutionary isn’t it.
 

thesaint024

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Woz did say it would piss people off and it did, just not me. I keep my adapter plugged into my headphones so it’s a non issue for me personally. I don’t use bt because I don’t want another thing to charge, but bt can have better sound quality than wired analog. Some DAC’s are quality and can reproduce better sound. I’ve heard the difference. You might be referring to older technology because it’s no longer a given that the sound is worse.

Besides the benefits of a digital connection, if the other justification is waterproofing, I would take that any day over the minor convenience of an always attached adapter. Applies to my personal usage.
 
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BvizioN

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Is there a reason you prefer AirPods to other bluetooth devices? Does it sound better than other bluetooth?

I will answer this for myself. The integration with Apple echo system is probably what I like most. I use Apple watch, iPhone, iPad and Mac. You only pare it once with any of these and bang. Use it on whichever you want.
For me, they stay firm in the ear and don't move or drop regardless of how much I am tuning. Have used powerbeats before and did not like them too much, also not fan of the wire on the back of the neck.
Sound quality I find it maybe a bit better then Earpods but is quite good for me to not look back at the wired ones ever! The ability of being free from wires for me is simply amazing.
 

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cleanair

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Woz did say it would piss people off and it did, just not me. I keep my adapter plugged into my headphones so it’s a non issue for me personally. I don’t use bt because I don’t want another thing to charge, but bt can have better sound quality than wired analog. Some DAC’s are quality and can reproduce better sound. I’ve heard the difference. You might be referring to older technology because it’s no longer a given that the sound is worse.

Besides the benefits of a digital connection, if the other justification is waterproofing, I would take that any day over the minor convenience of an always attached adapter. Applies to my personal usage.
When do you have a use for the waterproofing?
 

canesalato

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i think they should have removed the jack not with the 7, but, if they really had to, with the 8 and X.
With wireless charging you can at least listen to music with the lightning port and charge the phone at the same time
 
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x-evil-x

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I haven't used the headphone jack much if at all since iPhone 5 days.
I tried bluetooth out a year into owning the 5 and hated it. uncomfortable and sound quality was crap.
Tried the jaybird bluebud X and never looked back. Its all I use now. I upgraded to the x1/x2 and now the freedoms and they sound amazing with memory foam tips.
Aside from that I use my phone as my car deck(bypassed my stock head unit and have a DSP in the trunk).
I won't run bluetooth in the car for this main reason as I run full digital from the USB connection kit and my phone still charges and I have the Dac running Digital coax into the trunk where the DSP is.

Anywayyy, I dont really care about the headphone jack.
People with AUX ports in their cars can use the lighting cable to get audio its a none issue.
For those people that dont want to carry around the dongle for your high end headphones just leave it plugged into the other side of the headphones and stop complaining. Its not like its going to bring the port back they are using it for other things now.
 
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However that can be only used when it's not charging. But in case you use your iPhone for several hours a day, it's likely that you'll be charging once or twice during the day at which time you can't use that adapter.

You don't need to worry about charging your phone after several hours use, iPhone batteries aren't that bad.

Don't know why a big deal is made about the removal of the jack, the adapter has stayed on my earphones since I put it on there when I got my 7, my adapter I got with my 8 Plus is still in the box.
 
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However that can be only used when it's not charging. But in case you use your iPhone for several hours a day, it's likely that you'll be charging once or twice during the day at which time you can't use that adapter.

It is NOT likely I will be charging once or twice a day. Your phone must be the center of your whole life during the day to need charging multiple times a day.
 

Relentless Power

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No, why? Even the Google Pixel 2 doesn’t have a headphone jack now either. Wireless is starting to take over.

When Apple removed the headphone jack, I remember how many were saying that no other smart phone competitor would do that. And now Google was next to remove the headphone jack. It's just a matter of how wireless and Bluetooth is becoming more predominant every day, just may not be convenient for everybody.
 

bruinsrme

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I disagreed with the elimination of the jack.
Today I can’t see myself being tethered to a phone. The freedom is real and loving it.
 
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