iPhone Does Apple deliberately slow its old models before a new release?

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  1. Dave.UK macrumors 65816

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    - The study was undertaken by student Laura Trucco at Harvard University
    - It also compared Apple's results with searches for 'Samsung Galaxy slow'
    - Research found that the term was unaffected by Samsung new releases
    - Study has fuelled suggestions Apple engages in ‘planned obsolescence’
    - Theory states that manufacturers build in a certain lifetime to a product and then it will simply stop working, forcing consumers to buy a new one

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    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-slow-spike-ahead-launches.html#ixzz3949Ys1xv

    Interesting article in the daily mail a couple of days ago. Thought it might make a good discussion.
     
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    Interesting idea for the study. I'd like to see some benchmarks for CPU, GPU, and network speeds pre and post update though.
     
  4. SpoonCody macrumors 6502

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    I don't see how Apple could do this without people uncovering it in the code of their updates.

    I think the real issue is that Apple holds back hardware specs, and then when updates come to a 1 or 2 year old device, the device may not be able to handle it -- slowing down, glitchy, etc. And so people get the impression Apple intentionally cripples their devices to "force" upgrades.

    But that's just an unsupported theory. No real clue what I'm talking about.
     
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    Or maybe people are just searching reviews with simple words like "S5 slow" to get to know if it is slow or not.
     
  7. kupkakez macrumors 68000

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    I would take anything written by the Daily Mail with a grain of salt. As much as I love reading the Daily Mail I do it for entertainment, not as a source of news.
     
  8. rui no onna macrumors 601

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    This pretty much sums it up:
     
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    I don't necessarily think it is deliberate, but it does happen
    Samsung's updates are just as notorious

    stock android / windows phone seem to be improving in performance with newer releases (with older devices)
     
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    I don't think so.

    The 4S doesn't feel slow, and neither does the 5.

    I do remember the 4 getting slow feeling, but it's single core, single thread. The double core 4S was such a monumental massive leap in performance... the 4 just got left behind too quickly.
     
  11. rui no onna macrumors 601

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    Looking at the Google Trends graphs though, Samsung phones are just always slow. :p :rolleyes:
     
  12. gotluck macrumors 603

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    love my S4 GPE :) , performance has definitely increased with updates
     
  13. DanGoh macrumors 6502

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    I think it'd be too much of a risk. If people found out, then people would form a mob
     
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    I think it's the new iOS that's released takes more resources and makes the device seem slower.
     
  15. rui no onna macrumors 601

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    Keyword there being GPE. Had a Nexus S and a Galaxy S. Same CPU, GPU, RAM, display, etc. Nexus S was pretty decent on stock Gingerbread. The Galaxy S was just a major pain to use on Froyo with TouchWiz (and mine was a T-Mobile model so it never got an official update nor was it popular enough to get custom ROMs). Meanwhile, the Nexus S got updates to ICS and JB both of which actually improved performance. :rolleyes:
     
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    Samsung doesn't need to deliberately stifle it's handsets prior to a new hardware version, because they are generally stifled by the software from day 1 ...... ;)
     
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    Notice how when iOS 4 and iOS 7 were released the searches spiked even more? IMO those were the two largest changes to iOS. 7 slowed down devices the most because of the transparency and 4 slowed everything down because of the wallpapers on the home screen and 'multitasking'.

    IMO the more telling chart is the galaxy s chart. Seemingly galaxy s devices are always slow. :p
     

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  18. cynics macrumors G4

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    Does Apple deliberately slow its old models before a new release?

    It's coincidence. Apple still sells their older devices after releasing a new model. That's just bad business to sabotage something you still profit from.

    I've searched for similar keywords for reasons unrelated to a device getting slow.

    You also see a ton of threads from people asking if it's worth upgrading iOS or if it slows down the device they are asking about. They haven't actually tried it.
     
  19. gotluck macrumors 603

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    Well they would love to try upgrading ios, but they can't go back..

    I wouldn't really call it coincidence, the os is getting more demanding
     
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    Daily Mail just reported. The original article from New York Times
    Anandtech forum also has this discussion 2 days ago.
    http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2393078
     
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    I don't think it has anything to do with an intentional slowing down for older devices. Apple is adding new features all the time, and that takes resources that weren't needed before. Ergo, it seems slower. The specs of the phones also come into play as they add more and more features. If they released a phone with, say, S5 specs? It'd be good for a REAL long time.

    Not that they should, just bringing up a point.
     
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    I personally think iOS4 or iOS5 to be the best of the bunch. My pinnacle on battery life on the platform was iPhone 4 on iOS4. I generally could get 10 hr screen time usage on Wi-Fi and my iPhone 4 once had a month on standby while on airplane mode. After iOS5 with the pull-down notifications, iCloud, more Apple bloatware, and faster GPU of the 4s and later models, battery suffered since with maybe 6-8 hr screen time usage and lower standby times.

    What Apple "could" be doing is no different than what Sony did for years with their electronics called the Sony Timer if urban legend rings true. Put a self-destruct program in there after the warranty expires for consumers to keep purchasing the newest one. Apple isn't the only one that should be accused of this. It's business. Not personal.
     
  23. gotluck macrumors 603

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    You are making me want to restore my 4 to ios 4 to see if that is true :p
    Got my blobs :)
     
  24. rui no onna macrumors 601

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    Unfortunately. Also, don't forget the dual-core CPU. While the additional power consumption might be small, every single milliwatt counts on these devices (particularly for standby). I wouldn't really mind some additional bulk if it means longer battery life.
     
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    My iPhone 3G in an AT&T landfill somewhere with iOS 4 on it says yes :p

    Probably not though, bad testing and a whole bunch of embarrassing quality assurance failings can account for that mess and as far as I am aware no other iPhone model has had that intense of a slow down. Likely just people being paranoid
     

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