iPhone Does Apple deliberately slow its old models before a new release?

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by Dave.UK, Jul 31, 2014.

  1. Dave.UK macrumors 65816


    Sep 24, 2012
    Kent, UK
    - The study was undertaken by student Laura Trucco at Harvard University
    - It also compared Apple's results with searches for 'Samsung Galaxy slow'
    - Research found that the term was unaffected by Samsung new releases
    - Study has fuelled suggestions Apple engages in ‘planned obsolescence’
    - Theory states that manufacturers build in a certain lifetime to a product and then it will simply stop working, forcing consumers to buy a new one


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-slow-spike-ahead-launches.html#ixzz3949Ys1xv

    Interesting article in the daily mail a couple of days ago. Thought it might make a good discussion.
  2. MacDawg macrumors Core


    Mar 20, 2004
    "Between the Hedges"
  3. 556fmjoe macrumors 65816


    Apr 19, 2014
    Interesting idea for the study. I'd like to see some benchmarks for CPU, GPU, and network speeds pre and post update though.
  4. SpoonCody macrumors 6502

    May 28, 2014
    I don't see how Apple could do this without people uncovering it in the code of their updates.

    I think the real issue is that Apple holds back hardware specs, and then when updates come to a 1 or 2 year old device, the device may not be able to handle it -- slowing down, glitchy, etc. And so people get the impression Apple intentionally cripples their devices to "force" upgrades.

    But that's just an unsupported theory. No real clue what I'm talking about.
  5. TheHateMachine macrumors 6502a


    Sep 18, 2012
    Santa Fe, TX
  6. mrex macrumors 68030


    Jul 16, 2014
    Or maybe people are just searching reviews with simple words like "S5 slow" to get to know if it is slow or not.
  7. kupkakez macrumors 68000


    Apr 4, 2011
    I would take anything written by the Daily Mail with a grain of salt. As much as I love reading the Daily Mail I do it for entertainment, not as a source of news.
  8. rui no onna macrumors 603

    rui no onna

    Oct 25, 2013
    This pretty much sums it up:
  9. gotluck, Jul 31, 2014
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2014

    gotluck macrumors 603


    Dec 8, 2011
    East Central Florida
    I don't necessarily think it is deliberate, but it does happen
    Samsung's updates are just as notorious

    stock android / windows phone seem to be improving in performance with newer releases (with older devices)
  10. Menel macrumors 603


    Aug 4, 2011
    I don't think so.

    The 4S doesn't feel slow, and neither does the 5.

    I do remember the 4 getting slow feeling, but it's single core, single thread. The double core 4S was such a monumental massive leap in performance... the 4 just got left behind too quickly.
  11. rui no onna macrumors 603

    rui no onna

    Oct 25, 2013
    Looking at the Google Trends graphs though, Samsung phones are just always slow. :p :rolleyes:
  12. gotluck macrumors 603


    Dec 8, 2011
    East Central Florida
    love my S4 GPE :) , performance has definitely increased with updates
  13. DanGoh macrumors 6502


    Apr 6, 2014
    I think it'd be too much of a risk. If people found out, then people would form a mob
  14. B..., Jul 31, 2014
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2014

    B... macrumors 68000


    Mar 7, 2013
    I think it's the new iOS that's released takes more resources and makes the device seem slower.
  15. rui no onna macrumors 603

    rui no onna

    Oct 25, 2013
    Keyword there being GPE. Had a Nexus S and a Galaxy S. Same CPU, GPU, RAM, display, etc. Nexus S was pretty decent on stock Gingerbread. The Galaxy S was just a major pain to use on Froyo with TouchWiz (and mine was a T-Mobile model so it never got an official update nor was it popular enough to get custom ROMs). Meanwhile, the Nexus S got updates to ICS and JB both of which actually improved performance. :rolleyes:
  16. MRU Suspended


    Aug 23, 2005
    Samsung doesn't need to deliberately stifle it's handsets prior to a new hardware version, because they are generally stifled by the software from day 1 ...... ;)
  17. bkends35 macrumors 6502a


    Feb 24, 2013
    Notice how when iOS 4 and iOS 7 were released the searches spiked even more? IMO those were the two largest changes to iOS. 7 slowed down devices the most because of the transparency and 4 slowed everything down because of the wallpapers on the home screen and 'multitasking'.

    IMO the more telling chart is the galaxy s chart. Seemingly galaxy s devices are always slow. :p

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  18. cynics macrumors G4

    Jan 8, 2012
    Does Apple deliberately slow its old models before a new release?

    It's coincidence. Apple still sells their older devices after releasing a new model. That's just bad business to sabotage something you still profit from.

    I've searched for similar keywords for reasons unrelated to a device getting slow.

    You also see a ton of threads from people asking if it's worth upgrading iOS or if it slows down the device they are asking about. They haven't actually tried it.
  19. gotluck macrumors 603


    Dec 8, 2011
    East Central Florida
    Well they would love to try upgrading ios, but they can't go back..

    I wouldn't really call it coincidence, the os is getting more demanding
  20. khha4113 macrumors regular


    Oct 12, 2013
    Daily Mail just reported. The original article from New York Times
    Anandtech forum also has this discussion 2 days ago.
  21. Michael Goff macrumors G5

    Michael Goff

    Jul 5, 2012
    I don't think it has anything to do with an intentional slowing down for older devices. Apple is adding new features all the time, and that takes resources that weren't needed before. Ergo, it seems slower. The specs of the phones also come into play as they add more and more features. If they released a phone with, say, S5 specs? It'd be good for a REAL long time.

    Not that they should, just bringing up a point.
  22. Savor Suspended


    Jun 18, 2010
    I personally think iOS4 or iOS5 to be the best of the bunch. My pinnacle on battery life on the platform was iPhone 4 on iOS4. I generally could get 10 hr screen time usage on Wi-Fi and my iPhone 4 once had a month on standby while on airplane mode. After iOS5 with the pull-down notifications, iCloud, more Apple bloatware, and faster GPU of the 4s and later models, battery suffered since with maybe 6-8 hr screen time usage and lower standby times.

    What Apple "could" be doing is no different than what Sony did for years with their electronics called the Sony Timer if urban legend rings true. Put a self-destruct program in there after the warranty expires for consumers to keep purchasing the newest one. Apple isn't the only one that should be accused of this. It's business. Not personal.
  23. gotluck macrumors 603


    Dec 8, 2011
    East Central Florida
    You are making me want to restore my 4 to ios 4 to see if that is true :p
    Got my blobs :)
  24. rui no onna macrumors 603

    rui no onna

    Oct 25, 2013
    Unfortunately. Also, don't forget the dual-core CPU. While the additional power consumption might be small, every single milliwatt counts on these devices (particularly for standby). I wouldn't really mind some additional bulk if it means longer battery life.
  25. Hastings101 macrumors 68020


    Jun 22, 2010
    My iPhone 3G in an AT&T landfill somewhere with iOS 4 on it says yes :p

    Probably not though, bad testing and a whole bunch of embarrassing quality assurance failings can account for that mess and as far as I am aware no other iPhone model has had that intense of a slow down. Likely just people being paranoid

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