Does Apple have any cohesive strategy?

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  1. tubeexperience macrumors 68030

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    The new MacBook Pro only have Thunderbolt 3/USB-C ports and a 3.5mm headphone jack.

    Meanwhile, the iPhone only have Lightning.

    Want to connect your iPhone to your new MacBook Pro?

    Can't do that!

    Want to connect your Lightning EarPods to your MacBook Pro?

    Can't do that either!

    It's like while Scrooge McDuck, err... Tim Cook, is checking his bank account, everyone is running around doing whatever he/she wants.
     
  2. Zwhaler macrumors 603

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    Sadly, Lightning was Apple's holdover between 30pin and USB-C (I don't even know if they were thinking much about USB-C when they designed Lightning for the iPhone 5). Now it is creating issues because USB-C is the standard, and Lightning is on the decline. So eventually things are transitioning to USB-C (in my opinion).
     
  3. bigpoppamac31 macrumors 68000

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    Yeah I know. It's not seamless at all.
     
  4. jerryk macrumors 68040

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    Apple should have gone bold with the iPhone7 and dumped the lightning port. Android phones have already done this.

    And imagine now the wail from people that are buying lightning headphones when the iPhone 7s or 8 dumps the lightning port. Since they made users already but new headphones they could have at least gone with a connector that is going to last.
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    There are USB-C to lightning cables
     
  5. DeltaMac macrumors 604

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    I do understand where you want this thread to go, but Apple does offer that USB-C to Lightning cable, if you need it.

    hmm... When did android phones ever have a lightning port?
     
  6. bigpoppamac31 macrumors 68000

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    Apple should have kept the headphone jack at least another year on the iPhone until they're ready to go USB-C on the iPhone. Would have saved people money from buying lightning headphones. I ended up getting a 6S instead of a 7 so I'm okay.
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    I think he means that Android phones have dumped micro USB for USB-C.
     
  7. jerryk macrumors 68040

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    I misspoke. I meant to say Android had already gone to USBC.
     
  8. Ries macrumors 68000

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    Yes they do, the are optimising solely the amount of profit they can extract from you. Need cable here, need cable there, need that dongle. Lets do minimum and charge maximum.
     
  9. New_Mac_Smell macrumors 68000

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    Do we really need so many posts/threads regarding the notion that you need a new cable to go from lightning to USB-C for iPhones? Yes, you need a new cable, exactly the same thing if you had an Android phone, or any other phone! Why are there so many people desperate to connect their phones to their new Macs? I haven't had to do that in years, since iOS whatever that removed the need for tethering.

    Also, pretty sure most people buy the much cheaper cables/adapters from other sources. So it's not exactly 'Apple' extracting profit from people in that regard.
     
  10. Ulenspiegel macrumors 68030

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  11. tubeexperience thread starter macrumors 68030

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    So to connect your iPhone to your new MacBook Pro, you have to pay Apple another $25.

    Tim Cook must thinks that his bank account is a little empty.
     
  12. FrozenDarkness macrumors 65816

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    I think the iphone's future is one without any port at all a la apple watch
     
  13. New_Mac_Smell macrumors 68000

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    I think THE future is in wireless, one day everything will be wireless once they work the kinks out of wireless charging. But we're a long way off a portless phone, or anything. Like a good 15-20 years at least.
     
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    No, you can buy a USB-C to lightning cable from other suppliers than Apple, or you could buy a USB-C to USB-A adapter for a couple of dollars and use that with your existing cables

    Either way, there certainly is more than one way to connect your iPhone to your MacBook Pro
     
  15. FrozenDarkness macrumors 65816

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    what makes you say that? bluetooth headphones can be had for as little as $25 on amazon, it'll probably take a year or two for apple to be able to make a cheap one. Wireless charging isn't far off. Wireless syncing is already a reality. I'm going to say iphone will go full wireless in 2 years
     
  16. aristobrat macrumors G5

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    Apple cohesive strategy: iCloud. The cable is only for charging with the brick.

    Apple cohesive strategy: Bluetooth Beats headset
     
  17. tylerwatt12 macrumors regular

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    iPhone will be a single sheet of glass, no ports to plug in. Touch id via the touchscreen, no moving parts. Fully water proof because of this. Wireless charging, wireless headphones, no syncing, maybe a debugging connector like the apple watch.

    Apple's philosophy: make the device as unbreakable as possible.

    The MacBooks will have 1 port to rule them all, charging, connecting, adapting, storage, video, etc. Only 1 type of port takes up less space, more space for battery and pcb. No more space taken by SD card readers not everyone will use. Carry only the adapters you need. Going to edit photos? bring the thunderbolt to USB-C adapter.

    Apple's philosophy: give them a port they will always use.
     
  18. myscrnnm macrumors 65816

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    What I wish Apple had done with the iPhone 7 was give it and its wall charger USB-C ports, and a USB-C cable to charge it with. Or at least have a wall charger with USB-C and a USB-C to Lightning cable. Oh well, maybe Apple will make the transition with the iPhone 8.

    I'm not too worried though, since the iPhone can get updates OTA. Only need to connect it to my computer to make backups and download music.
     
  19. New_Mac_Smell macrumors 68000

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    I think wireless charging is still a way off, not the rubbish contact stuff we have at the moment where you may as well plug it in. I mean long range stuff. All sorts of problems with dropoffs at range, then it'd need several years testing for health and stuff, then more years to get approved. Until that all happens, I don't see 'wireless' charging taking off as it's kind of pointless at the moment.

    One day, I envision a wireless power bank in your home that charges everything, just not for a long time is all.
     
  20. jerryk, Nov 1, 2016
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    What kinks in wireless charging? I have been charging my Android phones wirelessly for 3 years. The Qi standard works great.
     
  21. bigpoppamac31 macrumors 68000

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    Exactly. Just what I was saying in another thread. Companies do whatever they can to get more money from the consumer. They don't care about the consumer.
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    Yeah but they won't use that extra space for more battery or more powerful processor etc. They'll just make it even thinner which is not necessary.
     
  22. sgript macrumors member

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    From recent rumours cropping up they seem to be researching extended wireless charging, aka without the use of a dock, but more based on proximity. If that's the case, we may very well see no ports in iPhones soon. Though I do think USB-C will soon take over from lightning.
     

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