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Macs aren't for games. You bought it for a useless reason.

Granted, they play games. The Mac Pro and MacBook Pro handle Crysis, among others, quite well.

If you bought your MacBook with gaming as a selling point, one wonders why you bought your MacBook.

Why shouldn't a macbook be able to play games? Do you use a computer for word processing, and one day was told that your computer wouldn't be able to load up Word anymore, would you be OK with that? I mean, everyone knows that macs are for video and image editing, one wonders why your bought your mac for such a stupid reason too.

I won't minimize the importance of this game or issue to you... because we all have our own things we find important and you are obviously passionate about this 16-bit support for your game

That said... I think for most users, this would be a non-issue and a blip on the radar hardly worth noticing... and certainly does not render their machine a useless piece of plastic

Woof, Woof – Dawg
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You're right.. most users don't care. Just the 4 million Diablo II users, 9.5 million Starcraft users, and 5 million Age of Empires (I & II) users who may want to play on a mac. But what's 18.9 million people... (As of 2006, there only 15m mac users.)

This is a HUGE issue, and thankfully I'm not effected because I have an ATI graphics card (and yes, I do use it to play games, thank you very much!) but Apple really needs to fix the issue. If I look at the starcraft box that I JUST purchased for my friend, it says Mac OS 7.6 or higher. Well, I have Mac OS 10.5, so it should work, but then Apple went and messed it up for some users.

This is an Apple problem and Apple needs to fix it, not have excuses made for them.

While my examples were ancient and extreme, the concept is ongoing and very current. Look at Blu-Ray vs HD DVD, Intel vs PowerPC, and note the MacBook Air, coming without an optical drive at all. The fact is, things are changing very rapidly and it's burdensome for a manufacturer to build capabilities that are cutting edge, while still maintaining functions that are becoming obsolete. Apple isn't being arrogant or trying to irritate you or anyone. They're just trying to build computers they believe will meet the needs of a majority of people. In the process, they eventually drop some functions that either conflict with newer ones, or that they see very small demand for.

Dropping the DVD drive is completely different, because the customer knows from the get-go that they don't be able to play DVD's. What Apple did was to part way through the OS cycle, disable 16 bit graphics. It's the equivalent of putting a DVD drive in a computer, and then a few months later disabling it. I don't think you'd be too pleased about Apple doing that, would you?
 
Here's what I think:

Apple moving the technology ahead = Good.

Ditching old games = Irksome.

Bootcamp = It's an option, but not for 'old Mac games'.

16-bit colour = Out of luck; 256-colour = go check the Apple Games forum for this.

How hard can it be to create a 'sandbox' to run these old games? Something like like the Classic environment in Mac OS X prior to Leopard. In this case, it might not even have to be that complicated -- just enough for the graphics subsystem to get the old fashioned colour modes back. Assuming that Rosetta will still be around.
 
You're right.. most users don't care. Just the 4 million Diablo II users, 9.5 million Starcraft users, and 5 million Age of Empires (I & II) users who may want to play on a mac. But what's 18.9 million people... (As of 2006, there only 15m mac users.)

So the 4 mil + 9.5 mil + 5 mil are all different people?

Sorry, but I can't seem to get all worked up about a game.

And yes... there was a time I used Pagemaker... but I can't any more
My old MS Office... not any more

I moved on from System 7... 8... 9... Classic... Panther... Tiger...

Repent! Snow Leopard is coming... it will be the end of the world!


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Macs aren't meant to play games? I was at an Apple store yesterday and one of the walls was FULL of games. Dozens of them. One of you might want to shoot a note over to Jobs that his computers aren't meant to play games, he's obviously not drinking the kool-aid.
 
Macs aren't for games. You bought it for a useless reason.

Granted, they play games. The Mac Pro and MacBook Pro handle Crysis, among others, quite well.

If you bought your MacBook with gaming as a selling point, one wonders why you bought your MacBook.

wow that made me laugh lol

also, its not unreasonable to buy a computer and would like it to play some games that arent the most graphic intense is it??
 
wow that made me laugh lol

also, its not unreasonable to buy a computer and would like it to play some games that arent the most graphic intense is it??

Yes, it is unreasonable, just like it's unreasonable to expect a brand new mac to run any other old software, like any old OS, or things that require classic or soon Carbon.
 
Yes, it is unreasonable, just like it's unreasonable to expect a brand new mac to run any other old software, like any old OS, or things that require classic or soon Carbon.

I expect you believe it would be unreasonable to watch a DVD on your new flat panel TV too?
 
hahahah

Macs aren't for games. You bought it for a useless reason.

Granted, they play games. The Mac Pro and MacBook Pro handle Crysis, among others, quite well.

If you bought your MacBook with gaming as a selling point, one wonders why you bought your MacBook.


I played the Crysis demo on my MBP 2.16 with the x1600 on bootcamp...it LITERALLY started to burn up my Gpu, or something!!! Started to smell smoke so I immediately shut it off and waited a few hours before turning it on again.

*maybe the battle was actually happening in my MBP?*

COH works fairly well though..
 
Age of Empires II and Snow Leopard

Well, I cannot play Age of Empires 2: Mac Edition since that runs in 16-bit color, so yes, some people do still use 16-bit color.

There's a work around. Make sure you downloaded and installed the 1.0.6 patch from MacSoft/Destineer. Then when you start the application hold down the Apple/comand key. (If you are clicking on an alias it will take you to the actual app, keep holding down the command when you launch it) You'll get a menu -- uncheck the first box (256 colors) and the last box (in game cursor) Select play, then go off and conquer the world. (I much prefer AOE II to III).
 
Despite the fact that the Apple store sells games (for profit), I would never try and play games on my Macbook.

That's what my PC desktop is for ;)
 
I played the Crysis demo on my MBP 2.16 with the x1600 on bootcamp...it LITERALLY started to burn up my Gpu, or something!!! Started to smell smoke so I immediately shut it off and waited a few hours before turning it on again.

*maybe the battle was actually happening in my MBP?*

COH works fairly well though..

Well the x1600 was discontinued May 2007, so your computer is at least 27 months old.

The new MBP with 9600M will do a lot better.
 
Well the x1600 was discontinued May 2007, so your computer is at least 27 months old.

The new MBP with 9600M will do a lot better.

The post you quoted is about 13 months old, so his computer wasn't as old when he posted.
 
the arrogance of apple (which some of you seem to share) just makes me angry. is it asked too much for a new machine to let you choose your color depth? aoe2 & 3 and civ3 & 4 are just different games. i want to be able to play them all. i think the least apple could do was telling in the specifications that applications with 16-bit color are not supported.
when i bought a new macbook, i was aware that graphic intense games would have trouble running smoothly; what i didn't expect was that most of my older games (including aom) don't run.
my new macbook is the most expensive piece of useless plastic i ever had.

You should toss it in the ocean. It will make you feel even better than trolling.
 
You should toss it in the ocean. It will make you feel even better than trolling.
People do NOT pay attention! You're responding to a year-old post and the poster hasn't even been on this site in 3 1/2 months. He's not going to see your response.
 
There's a work around. Make sure you downloaded and installed the 1.0.6 patch from MacSoft/Destineer. Then when you start the application hold down the Apple/comand key. (If you are clicking on an alias it will take you to the actual app, keep holding down the command when you launch it) You'll get a menu -- uncheck the first box (256 colors) and the last box (in game cursor) Select play, then go off and conquer the world. (I much prefer AOE II to III).

WOW!! great job giving this guy a solution to a problem he had TWO YEARS AGO!!!

please pay attention to dates before posting in a thread.
 
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